STOP ATTACKING 3SPEAK & UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT !
In this video I talked about the attack against @threespeak.
Some videos are being downvoted just because they hit the trending page.
After talking with a few dedicated steemians about the issue I realized that some steemians don't agree with the distribution of the rewards without understanding the concept of the platform.
3speak.online is the platform that rewards those who are promoting steem blockchain to the world. The more views we have, the more rewarded we will be. That motivates us to promote our videos in all other social media and forums to generate more traffic to steem blockchain. The platform also is created to onboard deplatformed creators with big following. The platform rewards those who are promoting steem blockchain everyday in other social media, like me.
Please understand the concept. It's not about quality here or fancy life. It's about letting those who are censored speak their true opinion without being afraid that their content will be deleted.
Please also watch the presentation of @theycallmedan in steemfest to understand everything :
Take a look at the team of the platform and what they are doing with #promo-steem !
Take a look at the traffic 3SPEAK videos are attracting to steem.
Only me in less than 5 months already generated more than 7000 views !
I don't think that adjusting rewards is needed. And the disagreement of rewards will not lead to anything good in the future. We are onboarding censored people not to censor them here as well. I think it could be an abuse of power as well.
Imagine if in the next hardfork those who abuse their power will be restricted to use it for days ! Such proposal could be created and I think a lot of steemians will support it.
Let us enjoy our freedom of speech ! Peace !
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Disagreement on rewards flagging is a feature.
Better to educate the newbs you bring that we don't care who you are, nor what opinion you have of yourself, we are gonna balance out the outliers, especially if they are paid for rewards.
No rewards are yours until the seventh day.
I doubt that this will be changing.
Crying about this feature of crowd sourcing consensus is likely to go poorly for them.
Anybody that has been here long enough to get a grip on the math, and it's need of protection from abuse, realizes abuse mitigation outweighs snowflake feelers.
I think that will be changed with SMT's.
Not the successful ones, imo.
If you allow no effort content, or pay to play, i doubt the smt will last long.
But, the nice thing is that we get try.
We already have pay to play. Just pay for STEEM and play with self upvotes.
Also, active users are down:
Authors are down:
Steem soon has bigger problems than “no effort content”: No content at all.
And what do you figured led to this predicament?
Stinc crippling us with linear rewards for two years while they were on walkabout surely had nothing to do with it, eh?
We may, or may not, recover from the kneecappening.
If we do it won't be the spammers and vote buyers we have to thank.
Linear reward was a step in the right direction. √x would have been better. Going back to the x reward curve was a mistake.
We have a healthy increase in new accounts but a decrease in authors, curators and engagement.
We need to incentivise new users to become authors, curators and engaged — which the √x reward curve would do.
Instead we incentivise the Whales and Orcas upvote themselves for profit.
The same for the 50/50 reward share. If we had tons of articles in need to curation then might have been a godd idea. But we don't. Look at the stats — again:
Curation is down as well.
And do note the two sharp down spikes. Those are the last two hard forks. They did not stop the downwards trend. They had no effect at all because they where not addressing the real problem:
Not enough rewards for new accounts
As it is right now SteemIt has the stick of pyramid scheme. Which is sad as it's a good idea and doesn't need to be that way.
I think it was to have collapsed by now.
I agree the eip has flaws.
The vote tax killed any incentives to stay unless you have sizable stake.
No need to comment, nobody can reward them.
I've just recently cleared the dust round down on 100% vote.
I haven't voted many comments since the fork.
That the top isn't complaining is telling, imo.
You got a graph of the square root curve?
Maybe we can get another fork that helps the newbs rather than run them off.
Here you are √x from 0 to 10⁹ – the VEST of a Wale:
Source: https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=√x+from+0+to+1e9
As you can see the curve is very steep at the beginning and then flattens out giving new, small user more power and reduces the power of large accounts.
I did that early this year but because STEEM has been falling constantly I lost that privilege again.
I invested mostly to reward users with my 100% upvotes. And now my upvote is worthless again. So delegated everything away to @crypto.piotr's @project.hope. They have enough STEEM power top take advantage from the x² reward curve.
Depressing really.
It was never intended that a single voter would generate rewards. The is that multiple votes stack to generate rewards by some sort of consensus. That still happens, and can be seen even in this thread.
If you want to pay rewards all by yourself, send a tip.
That never happened. What are you talking about?
No sublinear curve can possibly work. It would be attacked by milking votes being split up across spam and small rewards. The curve must be at least linear or mildly superlinear.
Curiously, the graph you posted showed that the decline was pretty much the same with linear rewards once the crypto boom of late 2017 (which was certainly externally driven) had played out. Likewise earlier in 2017 before the boom with linear rewards (also declining user base). And for that matter we could probably say the same about the n^2 era.
The curve really doesn't appear to be the major factor here
Typo. Typing mistake.
I would disagree here.
I case you missed it: I consider lots of small rewards a good thing. It would incentivise more authorship.
Also milking and SPAM already happens.
I have also have Bitcoin, Litecoin and Ether. They all lost but Steem lost the most.
They didn't do any good either. Not for authorship and not for the price of STEEM.
We tried two of the three rewards curves and they where failures. We haven't tried the third one yet. Apart from @minnowsupport using √x for their latest @PALcoin airdrop.
Not really walkabout. Cashoutabout.
It's a dang shame.
Greedy folks gotta greed.
Probably pissed it all away, too.
At least, I'm sure about @threespeak SMT. The platform has big supporters and everything will be ok with all dedicated creators.
Unless the spammers overwhelm them with paid for votes.
It will make a nice lesson for those that choose their smt's protocols poorly, imo.
The 3speak SMT will not leverage PoB, we will rely on Steem for that. We might introduce a complementary PoB token for 3Speak but that is not on the agenda for initial launch. Downvotes are an essential part of PoB and should not be viewed as an attack.
3speak as a automated voting algo based on performance, Future of 3Speak's Upvoting Habits!
While we may upvote a post we disagree with, unless it is against the UA, we don’t interfere and let the engagement set the stake distribution.
Tyvm.
Just the message I was trying to convey.
I'm all for the success of 3speak, dtube was a disappointment, it rarely worked for me.
3speak has played the videos everytime, once I lowered my Brave 'shields'.
What I don't get is how the fee to post is arranged.
I have only second hand info that says there is a cost to post.
You got a link to clarify that officially?
I can't wait to see that SMT. I think that will be just perfect. PoB is a very good concept and should be supported forever.
How much in Steem rewards have you received for 7000 views?
Honest opinion, does this ratio seem economically viable to you?
Yes, because those are all real views. Check here how hard I work to do that : The efforts I do to promote steem !
Effort is laudable, but for that, you get a gold star. It is results which translate into monetary value, not effort.
I will review the other information you posted, some of it looked potentially interesting, especially the twitter impressions. I am open minded on these matters.
That being said, we have almost four years of experience of many, many people claiming their efforts in promoting Steem to be worthy of large rewards. The resulting outcomes have shown that most if not all of those efforts did not produce results and the claims of effectiveness were a bunch of hot air. Repeatedly. Talk is cheap.
I'm in steem more than 2 years and half. Also have experience in that. I just wasn't in trending because I wans't using upvote bots and never circled as some. My effort is clear and you can see everything in the blockchain.
You can for example look for ''clixmoney'' in : https://search.esteem.app/
You will find my effort even 2 years ago. My talk is not cheap because I have evidence.
I uploaded as well 280 videos ( each takes at least one hour to edit, some of them a few hours ). That's a ratio of 2 videos a day. And I'm full time steemian. I use all my earning to take care about my family. I have a sick mother to help and two years old baby to support. I don't understand why you downvote me when I hit the trending page, whiles others are in the trending every single day and nobody touch them.
Not sure who you are talking about. I believe I am a pretty equal opportunity downvoter, with a few exceptions where the value to Steem is direct and obvious (for example, @quochuy who has been posting about his work making sorely needed improvement to the UI which was otherwise stagnant for the better part of three years).
Take a look at the Koreans for example who are trying to milk steem with low effort posts and others who are there everyday with autoupvoters pushing them to trending.
Take a look at twitter page and how many impressions I have during 28 days promoting steem. All my tweets are about steem.
Not all people watch videos, most of them read the description. And I have so many ideas to promote steem that I always share and implement. That's almost my work now.
@smooth please also take a look at such initiatives by @threespeak platform. I think they reward us for that work we do to make people join steem and to promote : Get upto $3 upvote for a comment ! and $24 upvotes to give
In the plaform those who are in the top are allowed to upvote with @threespeak stake and we do our best to onboard people from outside steem or to promote it. In fact we can use those votes just for our commenters, but I decided to use that every month to promote steem and to onboard new people.
This month I voted twice, because they have an update and I have better score that's why the date of upvoting changes to me. So, I guess I will be able to vote after a month from now.
Also, we pay fee to the platform every single month and that's about 30 steem now.
So, all the rewards I'm getting are deserved by hard work and I'm not doing anything bad. I'm positive about steem and excited about it and promoting it every single day for two years and half. I hope you will consider that.
You can also take a look at how the platform works here : Future of 3Speak's Upvoting Habits!
You are very kind and one of the best steem promoter. I agree with you that flagging is not a good idea to support steem rather kill steemians. It should be only used for abusers. 3SPEAK is really great platform to watch any videos especially for crypto videos because YouTube already killed Crypto Youtubers. So I believe if all steemians try to promote steem and 3Speak then within few months 3Speak will be a most popular video sharing platform. Still lot of Youtubers don't know about steem or 3Speak. Anyway keep promoting and we also support you.
Of course. We will have in the future more people who will join steem and with the next hard fork maybe we will not see such abuse.
What will the next hardfork bring?
SMT's and communities. I'm watching now a video about the topic. Each community seems to have it's own SMT. Like we are doing in @dcooperation now. That's why I'm asking everybody to create there. The guy is saying in the video that we will earn all % from all the posts created in that community. I'm also willing to create an SMT for @dcooperation . I think it will be excited to see. By the way I saw a post somewhere saying that we will not earn steem when we will have SMT , but only SMT. And then we can trade that to steem. Let's see what will happen in the future. Investors seems excited about that and some are buying steem now.
Here is the video I watch now :
Glad to see @trevonjb excited about steem.