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RE: THE SNAKE OIL CONTROVERSY: My Take
One of the few incidences where throwing a full flag feels better than receiving a full upvote.
One of the few incidences where throwing a full flag feels better than receiving a full upvote.
Look everybody…. I’m a good guy, I follow directions and I would not do something like this again. Making or losing money on this post is of my least concern. My drive isn’t money… This was my first attempt to become more known and a part of the community through this action. Obviously, this post was a mistake and I should have used something else. For some reason I thought people would like this type of thing on here, but I was clearly wrong. I’ve invested in Steem Power and was going to continue to do so. I’m learning the ropes of this place and am considering promoting steemit to my large email list after I learned all the ropes. It just seems that my attempts of communication to apologize and rectify the situation are being ignored.
All views, ideas and forms for expressions are welcomed on the Steem blockchain. Nobody here can stop you from sharing your mind or promote your ideas and/or products.
However, it is a platform where all stakeholders have a say, positive and negative, in determining the value of content and contributions as they see it. When a post is boosted to the top of the trending page using bid-bots, it falls on the community to voice its opinion about the quality and value of the content. Sure, it may help you gain exposure and perhaps more people will end up upvoting you if they see value in what you bring. However, you may also see that people dislike it, as has been the case here.
People want a front page that to the best extent possible reflects the best of the platform, not the worst. I'm happy to see how many people believe that this post was the latter.
Apologizing doesn't return money to scammed people.
And it's not only the money that people lost because of this bullshit.
Have you ever tried this product? and by the countless people who have been helped by this product, was also scammed?
No, I'm not mental. Are you? I'm clearly stating that it's a scam and you are asking me if I tried it. It's the most ridiculously stupid thing I've ever saw here.
Yes. It can't help anyone because it's bullshit. Not even real bull's shit which can be useful. It's just scammy pile of dirt.
Even flat-earthers are better than you, because they are not selling their bullshit to people in need.
So, You don't think adults should be able to purchase and ingest whatever they choose?
I'm not going to purchase his product, but I support adults making adult decisions.
As people can sell stuff they want, people are equally free to talk against people, companies and products.
If I'm saying someone is a scammer, their products are bullshit and only mentally handicapped people buy it - I'm not saying people don't have a freedom to make their own decision.
I have my freedom to comment on the product.
Giving people freedom to choose doesn't mean we shouldn't express negative opinions on something.
That's a good point! And in turn, I guess I also reacted.
But I hear you. Well said.
Are you in favor of having the black market up-and-running on Steemit, @whatsup?
Would you have this same mindset if people started auctioning off child-porn and human kidneys, sitting on Steemit at the number one spot on trending?
I won't answer for you, but, IMO, the line has to be drawn somewhere, or else you create the potential for some of the ugliest sides of humanity to start growing and, potentially, over-running the community.
To be clear, I think scamming people using bogus health products/ claims is near the lowest of low that a human can reach and I don't particularly like the idea of having Steemit's trending page being dominated by this trash.
For me the freedom to buy and sell is about adults.
The problem with Child Porn and Kidney's is that someone is directly injured.
I don't care if people smoke pot, do hard drugs or experiment with unproven products based on personal experience. I am for adults being adults.
I get the concern about the trending page, and I was really excited to see people use their voting power to express how they feel about this!
So, I completely approve of the flagging as well as the upvotes! That is how the site works and when people start flagging the site will function much better in my opinion. I am happy the conversation broke out.
I see. We're not in disagreement, then.
That doesn't follow from Decentral's comment.
U can make some yourself, for no money and witness it yourself instead of bashing it.. i just made some for the very first time and i'm now very intrigeud by the fact that i saw it dissapeare.....
You mean pile of dirt? Seems like you don't even know what this scammer was trying to sell before he edited it out.
U mean this pile of dirt...?
U can do this in your kitchen, yeah so.. doesn't make them less valueble... Btw Mendelejev his table of elements didn't that miss out on some elements...... Well well M-state elements would fit wright in there.
(First just know I went and upvoted all your comments here that were flagged so they would be not hidden anymore, just so you know)
But Yes Matt, yes they were scammed, if they bought "ormus" then yes man, they were scammed.. Sorry...I know this product seems to have a lot of people swearing by it but its 100% placebo. Real Honestr to God Stardust Blue, or the Secretion from glands of maji grail line indigo children, who were chased down and put into captivity during Ancient Egypt when theyd go CRAZY for this stuff, is no longer found on Earth, due to many reasons that you can think of like DNA being expired and no longer being able to produce this compound, you can find out about Stardust Blue or "Celesteline" on keylontic Science Dictionary. And how the "Ormus" or "Monoatomic Gold" is just a counterfeit version, syntehtically produced, and it would make the ancient egyptain presists trying to replicate the ascension experience go Crazy and iut was described like the Spice from Dune, lke hyperdimensional DMT, but our DNA and brains in current state can't handle it and youy will go insane if you use that stuff, but what you are selling is NOT that eoitehr its a counterfeit of the counterfeit of the real 12 Dimensional stardust blue aka Celestaline
But hey why not just forget the obvious monoatomic gold scam and replace it with COPLLOIDAL SILVER now THAt stuff works and VERY few people are going to argue its effectiveness! It would be S cool to see you just replace the monoatomic gold with some much less controversial Colloidal Silver product and there sos many cool things to try, you could probably get a very good deal on making your own bulk colloidal silver product to sell and sav people good money, etc
I think it was a success. You're definitely well-known ^_^ LOL
Sorry. It's an adjustment for everyone. I hope you manage to navigate the treacherous waters you now find yourself in.
Why don't you decline rewards then?
I'm editing this post. I just looked at the voting statistics, and it shows that 80% of all the votes were upvotes...
Just so you know, 80% of the upvotes are probably from people who just wanted curation rewards. The 20% downvotes should be a very strong indication about how disliked your original post was. Most posts on Steemit receive 0% downvotes.
And if you check that bartenders shit post on trending you'll see virtually the same thing happened to him.
while this is true. the reason for the downvotes is petty as hell.
Not really, the community determines what type of content is considered high quality. This wasn't high quality content and was pushing a scam product. The flags were more than deserved.
I'm actually listening to Matt justify his product and post on Discord right now. He's not doing well.
yeah i'm there too, and you're totally right, I forgot it was a known scam
You can decline rewards at Settings -> Preferences -> Blog post rewards -> Decline Payout.
Your post will still be on trending, but without payout and people won't downvote it.
I think you can still set @null as benefactor and burn all rewards.
I set @null as benefactor for 50% of rewards for this comment.
You can use http://fbslo.net/burn.html to burn payout to @null
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Hello there @mattmonarch
What are they accusing you about? I find your post really informative that's why I read it from start to finish. I didn't know that science can already explain spiritual things and your article, though you are promoting your product, has really given me an idea that this is possible. Do not use statements such as like the one you posted insinuating asking for upvotes. I clearly know that's not what you meant though. Good luck with your journey and it is amazing that you invested on steem. I hope I could be able to do it just like you in the future.
Seeking for upvotes is considered a spam.
Cheer up and let's just enjoy steemit :)
That was why my doqnvote was given in the first place. science does not explain spiritual stuff. Using big scientific words the make it sound like something is scientific does not sit with me
Hello there. I kinda agree with you. But then if a phenomenon is explained in a believable manner then it will really makes sense. I have taken his explanation in a scientific manner though.
DO NOT Burn these rewards, reinvest them back into yourself! You paid for these votes! Don't let them tell you what to do with your money, its not up to them, don't let them bully you lol just if you REALLy want to help GIVE the rewards to some of my Friends in Africa @mcsamm @steemgh @yensesa @black-man @desmond41 many great Steemians in Ghana and Nigeria who can really use your help man they promote steem over in Africa and with your help they can help bring 1 BILLION Human beings over onto our steem blockchain in the next 10 years!
Matt I know it may seem crazy here with people telling you to bring up benefactor reward code to burn your payouta nd all of this crazy shit haha but remember, this guy doenst speak for all of us... @fyrstikken what would he do.. Well he may like the ide aof burning the rewards I DOUBT it hed say what are we CRAZY?> you PAID for these upvotes you should get the payout back! If you do feel guilty just pick a few projects here on steem you likle maybe find some raw vegan people who you like or maybe some Steemians in Developing Countries or just whatever you want, just find some hardworking steemians and maybe send them some of the rewards or BETTE RYET man, just buy Delegation with that reward money and then UPVOTE people to help thjem! Why send people YOUR money when you can buy SP or Delegation with it and then UPVOTE and that way you can give even MORE tio people!
Anyway Matt just come into https://steemspeak.com if you want to speak with some big Steemians, BIG whales, investors people with millions of SP, including @fyrstikken and developers and steemit inc employees like @inertia and other community representatives, like me, heh I mean I can tell you how many steemians feel, I have a good idea but you need to hear from more than just myself, come tpo steemspeak its a good cross section of how steem works and thinks and feels they would love t hear from you therte matt , Fyrtsikken is just happy your invested into Bid Bots and buying Votes to inmvest in yourself, its how he wants the world to use steem, and I agree its healthy its a market like an Ad Market and it works! And you did nothing wrong here matt, sure many people don't like monoatomic gold, and maybe you shouldn't promote products that are kinda haha scams but hey , its placebo effect some people do like the product, just as long as you arent making any illegal claims the FD wouldn't approve of then who cares hahaha I disgaree with sdelling ormus on steem but all I can do is flag and I will never flag something like this its awaste of money! But whoever wants to can do whatever they want with their stake! Why fightw hat otehsr do with their stake?
Anyway matt don't worry man just come tro our Steemspeak.com discord its the LARGEST Steem Related discoprd and there you will find outwhat the3 REAL community members think and feel and maybe they will want you to burn these rewards butr I Doubt it why should you? You Paid for them! If you want just maybe distribute themn to some great projects and write a post about that! Or USE them to pay for Upvotes for Great projects you can find HERE https://solicitingpower.com a site by @roelandp that lets you browse lots of Steem based Projects
WOW this is good thx @ackza for taking the time to post this. I was getting really discouraged from this guy @fbslo for attacking my post as well. I'm investing $15,000 in the next few weeks and I really hope to get connected to a good group as well. Is steemspeak.com open to anybody?
YOU said you are not about making money. I asked you why didn't you decline rewards then.
You were trying to sell baloney through bollocks, no amount of editing or making about-turns or playing the flagged-for-no-good-reason victim will change that and guess what, the original version is still on the blockchain.
You failed to be taken seriously by anyone with half a brain, and now you turn out to be a post-retracting three-inch whiner as well.
Hint: 20% flags is huge here. Please go away.
Don't listen to @fbslo he's a bully
hmm! good for you cause somethings never change
Cumulative Steem power of flags so far:
Just another 9 million or so Steem Power worth of down votes to go.
Or maybe a Bot owner / chief delegator would like to default the curation reward?
Use the Bernie signal, Asher!
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Hey, there's me!
Top of the shop! :)
The post has changed though, ooo, decisions...
I am still learning about Steem. How much voting power has been used to vote this up versus voting this down?
It was a smart move from him not to use @promobot.
right
Sure thing!
hey @fredrikaa Matt Monarch will adapt and listen.... Ive met him in person in VilcaBamba Ecuador where he had quite the reputation as a Global businessman
Also Did you know its technically illegal for matt monarch to cash out from steem/SBD to Bitcoin LOL because in Ecuador Bitcoin is actually illegal ? Hah maybe it will hellp Matt to keep his winnings in Steem powered up forever pr until they change that law! LOL its true and its from a sort of insane ignorance about cryptocurrency on the part of the Ecuadorian president Correa who I used to respect and I got to meet him when he came to Vilcabamba but you know, I heard that was a sort of socialist and I mean, Ecuador was just run So much better than for example, Peru with its massive depressing slums that would drive any human to suicide, I just couldn't really deny the ability of Ecuador to be a functioning nation, I really respect Ecuador, but to make Bitcoin illegal, its juwst... Its just the worst sort of deal breaker and I mean suyre its an un enforced law but at any moment they could enforce it and they do actually enforce it to a degree in the business world, like you can't oipen up a coinbase type company down there openly but we do see p2p small time Bitcoin Dealers and all sorts of smal time biutcoin businesses but HOPEFIULLY they'll change that, and OF COURSE people still use Bitcoin in Ecuador but its just a SHAME that they actually have a ban on it legally, SUCH a shame when moving to VilcaBamba like Matt monarch and using the US dollar and regular ATM debit cards at their ATMs is just such a tempting proposition since you can live comfortably down there on just a few hundred dollars a month so steem would be PERFECT for living as an ex patriot in Vilcabamba.
Anyway its a shme that Matt Monarch is using Steem to promote the most controversial of his products when he could have just stuck to promoting the CBD oils and other raw vegan suppliments like Zeolite clay, now that is a product oif his that I loved! I brought that stuff down to ecuador actually when I visited and actually got tro Meet @mattmonarch and his healthforce Zeolite clay was Literallly life changing and cleaned my insides out so well and changedthe color of my you knwow hat, and it just made me FEEL better and I could FEEL it cleaning my body, it was clay so of course it would, edible fine pwder clay, THAt stuff works... But this "ormus" white powder gold... Now that stuff I just must object to, it is clearly a scam, I mean what IS it? Is it actually tested gold? Tell us what it is MADE of like what are we actually BUYING??? If its GOLD then tell us about edible gold but if its just sand in a capsule I mean... Tel us what it is made of and show some nutritional facts, give uis a list of compounds... I can't accept that eating Gold, no matter how many atoms it has, would be of any benefit to our health... Now we DO have prven effects from COLLOIDAL silver maybe even colloidal Gold in water like they HAVE in vilcabamba ecuador where the nmatural water fropm the rivers has colloidal silver whichis antoi bacterial anti fungal anti viral but Gold? Not so much.,... Its why the old royalty of the world would use SILVER wear when they had Gold to eat on too, but they chose SILVER... Its SILVER that has the health benefits... Not gold.... Gold may also be hard for bacteria and viruii and fungus to grow on just like silver abd Brass (hence brass doorknobs being self sanitizing every 12 hours or so) but we should focus on the health effects of SILVER not gold... .