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in #steemtalk8 months ago (edited)

Back in June and July, I wrote a few posts about the Steem inflation rate. See:

Now, as September comes to a close, I thought it would be interesting to see if things have changed, so I updated the numbers with today as a starting date. Remember, that there is no authoritative documentation on this, so this is just my best understanding. There could definitely be misunderstandings reflected here.

That said, here's what I found:

1. In terms of new blocks per day, inflation might peak between February 4 and February 12 of 2024. Coincidentally, just a couple of months before the April Bitcoin halving.

DateBlockInflation RateVirtual SupplyNew STEEM per day
2024-01-17817500000.06510050430529289945
2024-01-26820000000.06500050508607789946
2024-02-04822500000.06490050586686889947
2024-02-12825000000.06480050664766189947
2024-02-21827500000.06470050742845289946
2024-03-01830000000.06460050820923889946

2. Here's what the curves look like for 1 year, 4 years, 8 years, 12 years, and 20 years.

3. Here's a simple graph showing the inflation rate, virtual supply, and Steem production for the next 30 years

4. Note that according to the graph in point #2, we've already passed a sort-of milestone.

  • Back in June, the block production in a year was expected to be higher than the current block production. The daily production in June was 89,830 vs. the 1 year later value of 89,940.
  • Now, however, our daily production is anticipated to be lower in a year, declining from 89,903 now to 89,796 at the end of a year.
  • It's also worth observing that the daily STEEM production declines by more than 5% in the next 4 years, 27% in the next 8 years, 61% in 12 years, and 75% in 20 years.

If all this is correct, the next time that the daily STEEM production would be expected to grow on a year over year basis will be some time around the year 2037 (subject to other factors discussed in point #5).

5. Remember that none of this accounts for other factors that can change Steem production rates, including:

6. We can see in the middle visualization below, containing data from SteemDB, that the actual rate is currently running almost 1,900 STEEM per day below the predicted rate.

Final note: My weekly series covering burned and staked tokens are on indefinite hold until data in steemdb.io catches up to the present time after last month's API challenges; and until I decide what my Steem future is, given Steemit's latest ToS changes.

Thank you for your time and attention.

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Steve Palmer is an IT professional with three decades of professional experience in data communications and information systems. He holds a bachelor's degree in mathematics, a master's degree in computer science, and a master's degree in information systems and technology management. He has been awarded 3 US patents.


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Nice to hear from you again. I miss your weekly posts.
I'm curious to see if we can actually observe the predicted numbers in a year from now.

Final note
on indefinite hold

That is less nice...

Steemit's latest ToS changes.

... and that is even less pleasing... I didn't know about these changes before.
Of course, this only affects the interface and not the blockchain itself. But it still leaves a bitter aftertaste.
How quickly other countries could also added to this "list"?! After reading this note from you, I am refraining from further investments for now.

Steemit's latest ToS changes.

... and that is even less pleasing... I didn't know about these changes before.

Can you explain this to somebody who doesn't understand what the significance of this is?

Do you follow the link in the final note?
The No. 2 of terms of service have been changed. The "last update" is definitly wrong. Now you can only use Steemit if you:

are not (including but not limited to the following) a citizen, resident, or organization of the Chinese Mainland, Taiwan (province of China), Hong Kong (SAR of China), the United States and Singapore

These restrictions were added just a few weeks ago. Before that, there was only an age restriction. The removing of the age limit was announced here and here - at the end of the post. But not that residents of certain countries are no longer allowed to use the platform.

Does this answer your question?

Thank you - It does and I did wonder if that’s what you were referring to. Has anybody questioned the Steemit Team on this? I didn’t see anything in the comments.

I wonder if they’re just covering their arses so that they avoid content censorship lawsuits or similar in those countries…?

I haven't. I didn't want to draw a lot of attention to it by replying to steemitblog/sc01, and I don't have a way to contact them privately. That's part of the reason I touched on it lightly, here. Hoping that sc01 might notice and clarify.

I did read something about the terms of service only applying to the Steemit.com domain and not the blockchain itself. So you’ll just need your own front-end 😉

They’re strange terms though considering the Beijing HQ and US staff!

So you’ll just need your own front-end 😉

Right! That's reassuring, isn't it? ;-)

considering the Beijing HQ and US staff!

I thought the company HQ is in the USA. Michelangelo3 did a little research on this.

Right! That's reassuring, isn't it? ;-)

It makes a lot of sense - then you can see just the content that you want to see 🙂

I thought the company HQ is in the USA. Michelangelo3 did a little research on this.

It moved to Beijing when Tron took over... I don't know if there's still an official office in the US but I'm fairly sure there isn't. I believe that most of the Steemit team work remotely although I'm fairly sure that the developers work out of the Beijing office.

https://tron.live/a-visit-to-tron-foundations-beijing-headquarters/

It looks like a nice place to work with their very own running track.

The tatami room looks like something out of a lunatic asylum with padded walls.

@tronbeary should appear more heavily on Steemit... I think I'll work on making that happen.

I'm curious to see if we can actually observe the predicted numbers in a year from now.

Me too. I'm fairly sure that the actual numbers will be lower than predicted due to burning and missed blocks, but I'm interested to see how far apart they are. If the price of STEEM manages to break substantially above $0.252 for a while, it could be a nice reduction. And I'm especially interested to see if we hit the anticipated daily peak in February. On that point, the early/mid February time frame has been pretty consistent ever since I started looking at it.

... and that is even less pleasing..

Yeah, I was dumbfounded when I saw that. The funny thing is, I blindly clicked "ok" when they made me acknowledge the terms of service, and only noticed the change some weeks later in github. Anyway, fingers crossed that things work themselves out somehow. I keep hoping it was a copy/paste thing since I noticed that other Tron-related web sites have similar terms. For now, I can post through upvu or through condenser on my own computer, so I'm not locked out, but I'm still not thrilled about the situation.

Ultimately, I'm hoping to make/adapt some sort of desktop client so I don't have to depend on anyone else (we are supposed to be decentralized. ;-).

I tried to use esteem surfer as a starting point and failed miserably due to package compatibility issues. I got esteem desktop to compile and run, but it was still using websockets, so didn't want to talk to the API. So now, I guess my options are to study up on nodejs, css, npm, npx, etc and try to dig into one of the esteem clients... or try to start from scratch with Java, JavaFX, and SteemJ, which I already know a little bit. Eventually, that'll lead to css and HTML, too, but at least I can already make some progress.

I blindly clicked "ok" when they made me acknowledge the terms of service

Did you have to accept the terms again? Did you receive a demand to do so? I'm only asking because I didn't have to do that.

I'm hoping to make/adapt some sort of desktop client

Oh, there's a lot to discover on ecency and its offshoots. I think upvu.org is based on it too.

Unfortunately, I inevitably had to deal with HTML, CSS and Javascript for my site as well. I have even started with React. I wouldn't have thought that possible a few years ago. But I like to do it when I have the time :-)

I hope you'll write about your progress from time to time. Good luck with it. :-))

Did you have to accept the terms again? Did you receive a demand to do so? I'm only asking because I didn't have to do that.

Yeah, I was forced to reaccept a while ago. I'm not 100% sure if it was before or after that change, but it was after the post about the Steemkids ToS being a "guideline" instead of a "rule", so I assume it was after the change.

Interesting. Then the users could obviously be assigned to the area... Another proof of the non-existent anonymity.

Sehr nett :-)

I see the word inflation in one of your tags and I remember the news in the morning, they say, NO, there is NO inflation, the point is that we are going to buy groceries and we cannot buy the same as before, so YES, YES there is inflation
I wish you a happy weekend

Thank you! I hope you have a nice weekend, too.

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