RE: SteemSummer May 25, 26, 27 near Palm Beach, Florida, USA?
wow. very disappointed you have not come to me to discuss this. one email would have been enough. The name SteemFest is reserved for SteemFest. You can not just take that, i hope you see that. Minimally you could have reached out.
+++ Edit @ Wed, 28 Feb 2018 14:36:03 GMT +++
Ok, obviously while this post was trending @jerrybanfield was sleeping. Just now we had a about it and the name for the event is changed to SteemJ. Thank you Jerry for renaming the event, I hope it will be a nice meetup event.
I hope you understand that I try to 'guard' the name SteemFest to keep the community informed and clear about when it happens, so people can save up some, and are not in doubt when & where to go to or having a FOMO. Since 2016 I've been working on SteemFest and gave it a lot of time (ask my gf - first edition lost 10 kilo's of weight), then with the help of the crew and with the trust of the community (including yourself) it came what it was to be. I studied Hotelschool and worked at events for over 15 years (including organising events in Detroit, USA) and this time invested makes me want to treat it as my baby. Quality assurance is important to me, and when I am ready to trust others with this, (not trying to be arrogant here), it will be announced, but up till then I like to set the standard for SteemFest.
To keep things special this is also why there is 'decent' time in between every edition. It's the same as with for example, I don't know, Burning Man (not comparing or whatever hahaha way different league). Of course that is a great event and one comes home: 'wow I wish it was already that time again'. But that doesn't mean there should be 5 Burning Man's every year. Giving something time to digest and make it special by having enough time in between editions helps with making the actual event 100% epic.
All in all it is just unfortunate that you had posted the event by using the name SteemFest. As the post got trending I felt I had to say something about it (see above, obviously my first reaction/emotions as I was quite mad) as people where reaching out and asking about it. Ofcourse that is not a great way to discover such a thing, hence my response. None-the-less my response was a 'reaction' on your 'action'.
Good luck with the event, unfortunately I will have just left USA 1 week prior to the end of May and juggling family life with conferences / events and all such cannot make me stay longer.
+++ End edit ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I now see you have reached out in Steemit.chat. As I was travelling back from my holiday I had not seen your message. In your message you ask about using the name SteemFest, but only if you have my 'blessing'. Now I am not a god, but certainly did initiate the event SteemFest. So you mention you will only use it when I say it is ok. However you don't wait for a reply from me. That's pretty weird.
This is just using the brand, carefully build up since 2016.
Here is my reply in Steemit.chat:
You could have waited with a post until a reply from me. You could have mailed me. No it is not ok to use the name SteemFest. This is reserved for the event we intend to organise annually. Why? We want to bring together as many people as possible. It is a centralised event around a very decentralised community. The idea is that by having a clear 'wave' in events, people have time to prepare, come and don't feel in doubt whether: should I go to this, or to that one. It has been only 3 months since last SteemFest and the event for this year is already in preperation. Your post received so many upvotes because it uses the name SteemFest. But you have not asked (or waited for) permission to use it and just blatantly post and use the name. I am very disappointed.
Please refrain from using the name SteemFest in any of your event communication, also not tricks like: "The event formerly known as SteemFest 2.5" whatever and delete this post or adjust the post.
For completeness here is the message sent midnight 3.30 AM about 36 hours before this post was made.
Some people just want to use others success as a platform for their own ideas. We all know there is only one Steemfest that is organized by you and it is celebrated by the end of the year. Flagged this post at 100%, nothing against Jerry but everything against hijacking an established brand & name.
Yeah, that's not right. If there is not a trademark then technically he can do whatever he wants, but it still doesn't make it right.
Also, who in the hell would book Kesha for this community? And in Florida?
I could think of at least 2-3 other places that would be more hospital to this community than Florida.
🤔
lol, your username is hilarious in this context
LOL!
Just noticed this ;)
And in May. Florida isn't hospitible to anyone in May.
I agree it was bad he used the Steemfest brand without authorization.....but his plan is also a very good thing to the steem blockchain...why don't you get to an agreement with him @roelandp if Lisbon is ok, why not Florida? I wish to hear Kesha's music soon on Dsound
Can I hijack his brand and shamelessly ask for his witness votes to empower people living under the poverty line around the world?
Exactly!
I guess he should have declined the payout for it...
There's only one Steemfest, and we want it to be in your hands @roelandp.
Also the timing is no valid argument at all. Waiting for it makes it even more exciting, and we love to be excited about that one Steemfest :-)
@roelandp Can we have Disturbed, MGMT, Chainsmokers, Post Malone, Blink 182, and Kings of Leon at SteemFest 3?
Thanks! Looking forward to it!
jk ;-)
lol. only if you delegate 2 million SP to me.
No problem!
Hey everyone! Send @brianphobos liquid STEEM so I can delegate it to @roelandp ......... :-)
P.S. Don't actually do that!
it was not good the fact he didn't have your authorization....but his plan is actually a good thing to the blockchain...get to an agreement with him....you can let him use the name in the condition that he gives 5% of the revenues to a charity(example)
I'd be down to start a witness server and give 99% of the revenue after whatever the server costs end up being to charities on the blockchain. Anyone want in?
Although that lineup is a joke, I'll tell you the same thing I mentioned down below...I can get you great pricing on legit talent. Feel free to hit me up anytime. Can't wait for steemfest 3
roelandp I am part of a group to help autistic people in Portugal...... we are online but we want to create a physical thing ....our face group is https://www.facebook.com/groups/173926445980457/ .....I suggest you would allow him to use the name in exchange of donating a small percentage of the revenues to @autismoportugal what do you say? we would be eternally grateful to you
Jerry makes daily revenue he deposits into the @budgets account and his @jerrybanfieldroi account. Uses both to "fund" projects. He doesn't need to hijack the SteemFest name if he actually wanted to give your group money.
Hahhaaaaaa!
What are you waiting for? on-board them :-)
My team is working on it! @skunkape and @hogzilla are leading the charge!
👍
Don't forget Imagine Dragons lol.
Good Point! Imagine Dragons, Shindown, and AWOLNATION will be added to the lineup!
I'm having too much fun with this. In general I think @jerrybanfield is trying to do good for the platform. Sometimes it may be misdirected or rushed. I will likely do a post on it. I did have him on an autovote but I took that vote away for this post.
U have point sir.. and I agree he cant use the STEEMFEST brand name... without your permission... I actually ... I came here because the title. ..
By the way, was is already disclosed where the real Steemfest 3 will take place?
Shame on everybody who upvoted! I flagged maybe 5 times since June 2016! This Post got a clear 💯 down!
#jerryisoutofhismind
Upvoting pure gold
DYING LOL ahahahaha xD
Wish I had more upvote to give. Clever.
Just a small update from me: for me this issue is now resolved. Just as @arcange mentions Dlive is still mentioning the old post... Somehow that site does not get updated? Cache issues I guess.
I really like to follow @lukestokes posts/comment on this page. For me the issue is resolved. Good luck with the event. It will be a great meetup!
peace.
I will try to reach out to Dlive about their site workings, it must be a glitch, or it is not 'decentralised' ;P
What are @lukestokes posts/comments on this page?
Your very cool man...
When your respons coment .. i like you
You responses and way of handling this entire situation were exemplary! A REAL example to all. Seriously, respect to u mate!
Everyone, this is a Steemit Meetup not a SteemFEST! While the action to arrange a Steemit meetup is admirable, using the name SteemFEST to promote it is very disappointing.
The SteemFEST name has been built with unaccounted sweat over the past couple years and is fully endorsed by Steemit Inc.!! Using it like this just to get some attention is simply despicable.
My thoughts are with you @roelandp, as I am one of the ones who has had the opportunity to work with you in orgnising a SteemFest and know the amount of work you put into it. Sorry to see this happening.
Ohh i have no idea agree with u
Not cool.. Should have waited for @roelandp's permission..
Change it immediately.. Steemfest can only be one.. And its only if @roelandp is organising it along with his and @firepower crew.. No one has any right to use it..
I agree with you 💯👍 just followed you have a nice day
This is wrong way @jerrybanfield - you cannot just take SteemFest, you should wait for @roelandp and other creators response / permission before you did such post... really dissapointed
Well said -why am I not surprised by this post by this guy only..... Hijacker. No idea why people follow and vote that personality anyway - but shit follows shit
Thank you for saying this, and I'm not even being sarcastic. I mean it.
Thank you.
:-) I am happy to repeat this whenever required. Thought common knowledge.
hahaha
Now...that is funny.
Seriously don't apologise, because it's only trending because he massively self-upvoted it and put it in the spotlight.
You are 100% correct and he is 100% in the wrong.