New information changes everything. Do not vote on this post. Call for expressions of interest in Calibrae Beta. Vote on this post to be counted.
I have realised through a new idea that I have, that there is no need to filter user signups, one way or another.
There is another, more difficult puzzle now to solve. How to stop an explosion of new accounts.
The simplest way is freemium method. Given enough time, a user can earn enough stake to lift the limits. The primary limit has to be they can't have stake delegated. In fact, this may really mean, that stake delegation should not exist.
I am thinking through this, and I will have a definitive answer in the next day. I will be posting as @calibrae about Calibrae from now on, and I will not be posting, or voting, as l0k1 or elfspice anymore.
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the interests of reducing our workload, I have been asked to make a second post that we will grab the usernames automatically via votes on this post.
If you want to be considered for joining the beta, and having your Steem account copied into the Genesis Blocks of Calibrae, vote for this post.
(no need to vote at full power, payout is declined, 1% is enough).
I am moving on to knocking down each milestone I have specified in the proposed changes, first will be binary build, then rebrand, and then to the meat in the sandwich. I want to do what I can to get this thing moving forward faster, the sooner we have everything up and running, the sooner this community has its forum and the sooner we can prove that with our corrections, Steem's design will reign supreme as the decentralised, distributed, monetised social network.
The following users have already been noted as wanting to join the beta, one is a new account request, and another user has talked about requesting possibly two more also. Email me at louki.sumirniy.stalker@gmail.com if you have any similar specific requests.
@angelgarz @araksha @arthestically @beautifulbullies @benjojo @bentleycapital @bilbop @bleujay @blhz @brendanwenzel @buzzbeergeek @canadian-coconut @coindup @coinfund @cutencountry @davidbenjamin @domenicthomas @drpuffnstuff @ecoinstant @eirik @emble @feedroh @fiord18 @fitzgibbon @fleur @freebornangel @freebornsociety @fronttowardenemy @futuristgear @gigafart @guiltyparties @guttormf @happyme @helios @j3dy @jasmine-l @jbrukh @joeyknowsbest @juanmiguelsalas @justinashby @kenny-crane @kooshikoo @lavater @leilaa @leoplaw @libert @lunix @madstacks @meesterboom @munchell @nikflossus @ocrdu @onetree @paradise-found @paulag @petruska13 @por500bolos @prowebwriter @rebelmeow @reddragonfly @renate @robrigo @rondonson @ronmamita @roykattoussi @sabrin514 @sashin @shaunmza @skylineking88 @slavix @sornprar @sounddrgenie @steemitadventure @stimialiti @stylo @svamiva @theblindsquirl @themis @therealpaul @tommyquest @valued-customer @voluntary @xanoxt @xervantes @yoda1917 @zest
Note about possible change in initial account data
After a good discussion with one of the dev team, I have decided to put forward the idea that all new accounts will have the same, baseline stake (equivalent to the 5 SP currently default in Steem), and a baseline reputation (which is 25 in Steem). This will allow the natural process of development of reputations and power within the platform, which will be the product of user interactions, as it should be.
We have a seasoned internet scam investigator who will be examining every applicant account and on his advice any dirtbags will be deleted from the list...
This task is now running on autopilot so we can get on with the important work of making this happen. Note that the investigator is compiling the exclusion list already, has compiled a lot of it already, and this list will be used to clean up the list, and bot voters will be removed... automatically
So any abuse of this process will not waste nearly as much time as abusive users will hope for.
Since there's now a dirtbag clause, can you confirm if you will be allowing a certain dirtbag with his thousands of accounts obtained via fraud to join ?
The guy that registered @calibrae hours ago so he could give it to you to suck up I assume .
That guy's going to prison real soon fyi, I wouldn't wanna be associated with him at all.
Upvoted to "apply" again, even though this is a pretty cheap tactic to gain votes and visibility that's completely useless as an actual application process since it'll be full of bots by payout time...
I am relying on well reputed other people to let me know about things I have no knowledge of. I believe I know which person you speak of, and I am wondering where the moral high ground is when pretty much all of us have benefited in some way from the preminer votes. I know you benefited immensely. I got about maybe 12k steem power from ned/xeldal/etc posts votes.
For this reason, I am altering a parameter of the new system, to have everyone start with the same reputation and stake, a beginner account.
It wasn't my idea to use votes as a counting method, I personally thought it was fine to just field comments. That turned out funny when @archange's bot auto-posted because of how many comments the post got.
It's a nasty little mess we are all in here, isn't it?
So, I am not going to open slather on this, but rather, make sure every possible bad actor mitigation system is included in the parameters of the new platform.
Today, I was invited to answer questions on a discord hangout. It made me realise that muting could have a negative effect on reputation as like a hold on some part of it, and if enough people mute someone, then they can become temporarily a zero reputation, and then they have to make amends.
So, I'm not 100% sure what to think now. I did a bad thing yesterday, flagging a sweet little russian lady who dropped a link in a discord chatroom. I felt very bad about it. If you recognise what you do wrong, then you should have a way to rebuild your reputation, within the confines of strict limits.
I am going to ask this person of what you speak, regarding prison. It sounds pretty serious to me what you say, and I have no way of knowing either way, and I'm not going to mediate on this either. The person in question has been putting some time and effort into helping with this so far, so they seem ok to me.
I have to think further about this. Maybe there is no need to be selective about who can join, just copy the whole user list as at 5th august. Everyone gets the same stake and reputation, and can use muting to suppress reputation. I think it could work out really well, actually.
"For this reason, I am altering a parameter of the new system, to have everyone start with the same reputation and stake, a beginner account." - I like the idea. Might as well make the start as fair as possible. But will it be possible for people to create tons of accounts just to gain stake like some have done here in Steemit? They'd be the whales we have here today very fast.
I have accounted for this with the mechanism that modulates effective reputation score via mute/follow. More than likely the trolls are an equal population to the anti-trolls, and most likely, because of the incentive structure, the ones in between will join the antitrolls.
Calibrae will be tossing out the bandwidth limitation system for a transaction limitation system that is based on the product of reputation coefficient multiplied by stake. Baseline accounts will probably have something like 12 transactions allocated a day, and at zero reputation, or with sufficient mutes on an account, zeroed reputation, the trolls will only have 1 transaction per day.
New account signup will create accounts that are below the baseline of new accounts created in the migration process, similar to 'fremium' accounts. They will have a quarter the allowable transactions (I still have to work out the best numbers for this), and will be far more vulnerable to being muted and flagged into calibrae 'jail' of 1 tx per day.
With this scheme there is no need to limit the rate of account signup, because it won't take long for signup spammers to realise there is no power in these new accounts that they can really use. The interface will make downvote and upvote lists more visible to users, and place a handy 'mute/follow' button on the both, so if you do/don't like people's votes, you can suppress or boost them.
Count me in
I may not agree with all your critique to steem, but I am respecting that you are doing the fork and some of your improvements are looking pretty good. Count me in if you want me in :) Happy to host a witness if some are needed.
Witnesses are needed. We need 11 to operate the network, at minimum, according to what @xanoxt told me.
It may be a while before I have the binaries built, and we need to rebrand the front end. But, I don't think that will take long. There is some decent chances that amongst the Bulgarians I am friends with, someone knows people, and there is also folks working on getting funding to pay for the work.
Most of the changes are deletes, or massive simplification, so I hope that means it won't take as long to do. I am supposed to be working on some scripts to build the server so that it can be run on windows, linux or macos, with very little work. Specifically also I will be writing a script to automate configuration. Yeah. I know you are a witness. I know you did half that work for yourself. It won't be needed for Calibrae.
I noticed a photo-realistic hummingbird for this post, I was confused because the bird is facing the opposite direction now.
Will you @elfspice be changing your avatar too?
Resteeming, wishing more eyeballs see and share 👍
Yes, once the artist has finished with matting that photo and creating typography to go with it. It's much nicer, don't you think?
Oh! bummer.. I was expecting a Tucusito more like this below for the final Calibrae Logo!! }:)
Ive seen a porch swing, Ive seen a diamond ring
resteemed to 5000+ people :)
Wow, that is an impressive number of followers.
I'm all in! Let me know if I can help in any way.
Am in for this
Count me in on the beta too. And good luck to you!
Does this mean it's only for butthurt snowflakes who can't cope with facts @elfspice?
Who can't cope with facts? https://steemit.com/steemitdev/@steemitdev/steem-blockchain-update-august-2017#@elfspice/re-steemitdev-steem-blockchain-update-august-2017-20170807t203318660z
Lefty snowflakes who think Trump is terrible.
muting @croat because I have a job to do.
Is that all you've got? Some irrelevant, left-over, boring American election angst? As if it matters which mascot cheerleads that declining empire further into the ground. Fuck off, s-croat.
ROFL!😂
Another #safespace social media platform is exactly what we need @voluntary!👌🥛🐸
Definitely interested!