Steemit's Soul is For Sale
So I just spent several hours replying to a sinister troll that isn't a person but rather a group who share a posting key.
All because I posted that I'd lost trust in Steemit for removing the Pizzagate topic completely.
A troll cabal let's call it, that spouted Latin at me, which I've studied too, but they thought they were impressing me.... the point being that this sinister troll group most likely has some legal background. Who else throws Latin around?
And their message was repeated and incessant. It was blunt, it was spelled out. It became boring because they said the same thing over and over. About 50 times.
And their message was: Shut up about Pizzagate "because" talking about it caused the Californian law allowing for pedophilia to come into being. Right. WHAT kind of logic is that?
And I have to question the very passionate interest of this sinister TROLL CABAL who share a posting key, who want to shut us all up about Pizzagate. In the same week that Steemit "loses" the Pizzagate TOPIC completely.
No, don't go on about how you can find it in Google. Look at the Topic search bar. Or the screen shots at the end of this post.
Ned the co-founder of Steemit claims it's a "bug". I've titled it the "James Alefantis, how can we serve you better, your servants at Steemit" bug.
Coincidentally, at the same time the TOPIC disappears and the sinister troll cabal arrive, Ryan O'Neal of Pizzagategear has removed his video under pressure from Alefantis. Again. The video about the Pegasus Museum Alefantis and his friends call the Kill Room on social media.
Their words, not ours.
The first time Alefantis threatened Ryan's loved ones, Ryan removed the video. He put that discovery video back up after filing a case with the Galveston Texas police about the threats. And now it's gone again.
He hasn't removed the video outing how James Alefantis threatened him. Which is far worse. See https://steemit.com/pizzagate/@gizmosia/james-alefantis-threatens-kill-room-finder-breaking-news
So, Steemit, tell us when you're going to fix your "Alefantis, how can we serve you better bug"? I joined the site in November and never once in 2 months have topics disappeared completely. They have shifted into the "low value category (pizzagate moved there the same week the crazy gunman false flag event was meant to shut everyone up. Big fail. And precisely when pizzagate would have shot into the high value topics category, but we forgave that one). We could still type PI into the Topic search bar and have the entire feed appear. No big deal.
But now if you type PI into the topic search bar, NOTHING comes up.
Ned said we should all use a special url to find Pizzagate posts. Hey Ned, I replied earlier but this is for everyone to see. My answer is NO. Do you imagine Zuckerburg or Jack Dorsey would ask us to type a url to find posts about a subject? Are you nuts?
I hear you have ambitions to overtake Facebook or Twitter in users. Haha. When I first joined Steemit I was full of hope. I became a brand advocate quickly, telling people to use the site. Forget about that now.
Now I am a critic. I no longer trust you. I will use you, as you used Pizzagate to become more popular. Once you had Pizzagate protesters safely signed up you betrayed us.
I will use steemit as a tool. It has no value beyond that. Brand? You must be kidding.
And that's the opinion of someone who has spent over $50,000 on Facebook advertising for my business. Which I will never spend here.
Screenshots to show the pizzagate topic has been removed entirely from the steemit site.
@SpartanZA @Steemit the search feature needs to be fully developed - devs are on it soon! All tags fully available on Steemit!!
there's currently only 50 top tags organized by recent reward totals -- will be improved to all w/upcmng DB enhcmnts
Oh good I can stop breathing out of a paper bag now
Gizmo.. The site is open source, nobody is trying to stop pizzagate but if its not trending it wont show. I think your misunderstanding and/or starting drama over nothing. Insulting the site management really wont help
@ausbitbank I don't think you understand or have looked at the screen shots. Even Ned has admitted the topic is not showing any more - not even in low value topic categories! It is not normal and has never happened before. Did you read the blog post?
And others agree with what I have said ito UX.
I thought it was fine to say what we think on here. Why should I be worried about upsetting site management? They should be worried about the users losing faith in them. It's called providing a good brand experience. I am only here for pizzagate because reddit folded. I didn't come here to do anything else! And they take the topic away? They should welcome feedback before they drive off other people like me who are unhappy!
I did read and understand actually.. You think it got "censored" because the tags dont display, ned explained theres a bug that only shows the top 25 tags (ordered by pending payout afaik) and because a few posts paid out pizzagate dropped out of that list.
There are no posts tagged pizzagate within the last 24hrs with anything more then $1 earnings right now.
Like I said, the site is open source you can search the site code yourself for the magic pizzagate filter - you wont find it.
This bug isn't some conspiracy by steemit to suck up to Alefantis, I bet it reappears next time automatically the next time a pizzagate post trends. No human involvement/tweaking, its just how the site displays based on pending payouts..
The tags page is shit and doesn't show all tags, this has been complained about for months - its not a conspiracy.
Bookmark the link that ned the ceo just directly gave you that has ALL pizzagate posts in order of creation - https://steemit.com/created/pizzagate
Please stop with the melodramatic bullshit over a simple glitch that heaps of people have already tried to explain to you
Thanks for this info. I didn't know that there have been complaints about the tags page, nor did I realize it was based on trending....or that post-payout affected this. I agree that it is shit though...there are tags I posted under I would like to show up.
-Homa
Look how few posts there are now about pizzagate. the "bug" strategy is clearly working.
I see, but it seems to me that we are witnessing "the-low-tide-before-the-high-tide". There is only so much that can be dug up at one time. The lull in posts about this subject may be due to dead ends or even due to timing issues. It (pizzagate) isn't dead. It is just "cooking". I am sitting on (and researching) a thread to be exposed at the correct time. :). I understand your concern, but don't hold onto it like dogma. Hocham's Razor...
---Homa
@homalinadir Occam's razor... and holding onto something till change is made is a way to get them to fix it. If I don't who will?
I am voicing my opinion and nobody will censor it.
You earn dollars off Steemit and I understand your motivation. I'm sure Steemit will continue just fine regardless of my post so you will keep earning your dollars. You go your way and I'll go mine. I'm not going to bother with your melodramatic insults.
sigh I never insulted you, you just fail at reading - believe what you want. I'm not going to feel bad that my posts are finally earning money, the point wasn't to brag, the point was the earnings are the mechanism for deciding which tags display.
No pizzagate earnings = no pizzagate tag
It's not complicated
yes well I earned very nicely off it just a few days ago remember? and you helped with that. My goal on here is to promote a post for awareness with sbd. my point is, how can it suddenly earn nothing when it was earning so well? think about it...
Replying here because of depth limit..
I remember seeing that, I was stoked to see you finally have some luck there.
Both your post and my pizzagate git repo post both paid out not far from each other. THATS when and why the tag got removed from the side - because we had the last trending pizzagate posts. Give it a few days, some more shit will turn up and it'll come back.
I'm 100% positive this is not censorship of pizzagate - you can literally see every change made to the site via the github commit log https://github.com/steemit/steemit.com/commits/master
I get notifications of all changes and new issues and actually track whats happening behind the scenes where I can and I know that the founders are passionate about free speech and value the strength of steemit as a censorship proof platform. If they went and blatantly censored an entire topic I would be livid - that's not what's happening here.
Just 4 days ago... sudden drop and switch. I'm not going to say any more. But you get my point.
@gizmosia, I just looked up Pizzagate in the Steemit search bar (magnifying glass) I guess this is powered by Google, and it came back with a lot of results, I had never even thought of looking via tags until I saw your screenshot, so I did learn something, but I do think @ausbitbank is right, if it's not trending it won't show if you look it up via tags and topics.
@gduran it always went into the low value post category in that topic search area in the past if it wasn't trending. We know it HAS been trending lately because of all the excitement over Ryan. So why should it sink out of view (and not even be in the low value topic category) exactly when it's so popular? And even the co-founder of steemit admitted to baah and I that it wasn't where it should be. So no, there is no innocent explanation.
And this so-called "bug" is a way to further suppress popularity. It's like going on a forced diet. We can't find the "chocolate bar/topic" so there's no point posting about it or reading other peoples' posts about it!
At its WORST Facebook has never done this.
Like I told you I had never even thought of looking for something in the tags/topics, so I don't even know how that works. I do know what they say is once posted on the blockchain it stays there and can be found.
Maybe you are right, who knows, perhaps they are so powerful they can influence every type of media.
I think they are that powerful @gduran - look what they did to Reddit and Twitter. I found some interesting posts by looking at your archive. Nice blogs you follow.
Hi @gizmosia, I don't know if you will even end up seeing this as I am commenting on an old post.
If you do see this, I am thinking you will just think I am taking SteemIt, Inc.'s side.
The "tag" bug, has been experienced twice before, once on Stellabelle's account and once on Steemsports. Both of those tags as well as PG, have generated lots of comments, which I heard from a "dev" is directly related to the bug and the number of comments on a topic.
Although I think there are many people here that would rather you do not talk about Pizzagate, I absolutely do not think Ned and Dan would remove the tag on purpose.
Most of the people on SteemIt, so far are Crypto people, vs. Internet people, or business people and they seem to have a high tolerance to bugs, and shrugging off problems. I think your issue has much more to do with the culture of Crypto than censorship.
Do you totally understand how the blockchain works? The code and the database are stored on multiple computers at one time, which is resistant to censorship in general.
So, I know you are talking about a sensitive topic and feel you might be being censored, I honestly don't think so. I think you are just experiencing the Crypto Culture. :) Take care.
@whatsup thanks for the input. I do know how the blockchain works and they didn't drop the tag. It's all about the user experience. Most of us amateurs find the pizzagate feed by typing pizza into the topics bar. I got the same feedback from some others. It wasn't just my search method.
So now there are less people who can find pizza posts. That affects popularity of the topic. Chicken and egg.
If it is a bug, why does it take so long to fix? Also, I'm not a techie but blockchain means things are permanent. So how come things disappear? :)
I have no idea why they take bugs with such a lack of "importance". I have worked for internet companies my whole life. It is a Crypto Culture thing in my opinion.
You're right. They have no clue about brand experience. They're techies. User experience is the closest we get to a digital brand experience.
They should study Facebook a bit more carefully. Including why people are now leaving Facebook... Great user experience + censorship. 1 positive + 1 negative. Steemit - bad user experience (for some) + perceived censorship = zero zero.
I have muted this account. See why on my blog post titled "No Steemit is not censoring pizzagate"
Haha after I muted you first for inciting hatred and have proof of this because the blockchain records everything :) . Like I said then, @telos was right about you. You cause wars wherever you go. Then I find you creeping all over my posts again. Stalker! And you upvote your own post bwahaha
Is ned jewish?
I don't know. He's based in Virginia near the FBI ;-) or New York ... He's on LinkedIn here https://www.linkedin.com/in/nedscott
His profile says he's in Virginia. Steemit is apparently in New York
@the-reginald And btw I like your slogan on Steemit. About the dying society.
aristotle
Ah. He saw it all and warned us.
Really? So Steemit is a big pile of censoring sheeeeit too? Run cover for pedophiles MUCH?
No this guy s is full of shit you can not censor a blockchain even if you created it
Learn to read. I never said the blockchain was censored. stop your lies.
I'm not sure which artwork is better so have used both. If the pink version's better let me know and I'll delete the other.
@baah do you like the pic/poster?
Yes, and this one isn't full of my very colorful language :D
Haha. There's a new study out that says swearing is a sign of honesty. Not kidding.
You're lying and you know it. Do not you know that steemit is a blockchain? And that you can not hide anything?
Like you lie about Fake News? I said to you I don't follow your posts, which is true.
https://steemit.com/politics/@gizmosia/f-b-i-investigating-threats-alefantis-made-to-ryan-o-neal
Oh my... posting a link of an NYT article is lying now?
We all know the New York Times lies. They've offered apologies publicly!
That make ME a liar?
And Stop deleting your own comments.
My comments are all recorded. Look if you want to post propaganda by the New York Times which has publicly admitted it has lied then what do you expect? Random people will downvote you. I'm sure it's happened before?
iI did not ask you if you followed me, I asked you why did you flagged a newslink.
Because I found out yesterday when I kept getting downvotes and wondering how people did it, that a flag is also a "downvote". So if other people downvote posts why can't I? I have nothing against you personally. It just seems everyone around here does it, to me, to others I know. I considered the post propaganda so gave you my opinion. Do it back to me, I don't care.
Please next time just say you do not agree, let's be civil.
You're right. That would be the better way. My apologies.
Thanks to everyone who has liked this post. It takes courage. I have followed you all.
My vote is just a bot I'm using (Steem Voter). I support you in general but I did not manually upvote the posts you did today, because I don't understand what is happening. I read you say you are an open book, but before yesterday (when you wrote the word heroine) I didn't even knew what is your gender or the part of the world where you live. You have no name and no picture, so maybe you should think about revealing more about yourself if you want to level the playing field when questioning other people's intent who publically use their identity when interacting online. Just a suggestion, this is what I decided to do on Steemit, since I had started to investigate James Alefantis' activities.
try reading what the.masses wrote and judge for yourself.
And search for the pizzagate topic in the topic search area. you will not find it
I know of the.masses, never really been a fan of the concept, but I understand Beta mode is all about trial & error. I don't understand why @baah vehemently engages with this multiple users account. With experience I learned to, most the times, not feed the trolls. As to who you are, I have started to have doubts about your approach for the last couple of days (see my jumping to conclusions comment), but hey you choose as you please as my main interest in our exchanges lies with the progress you can bring to the #pizzagate research. I don't care for your name or your gender. (Whatever re gender in two words or only one means to you or at all: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/regender)
Speak Latin? You got me curious, I'll go and see. One thing is for sure the religious aspect seems important to you.
Heroic just go your own way. I am not religious but I don't care for the sexual perversions like bestiality being okayed in Canada etc recently. NO.
And I don't like your accusations. It's a free world. Go to posts you like.