I Love The US Government. . And I Love America

in #freedom6 years ago


Well, I guess Love is a strong word so maybe it is the wrong word to use here. . .Maybe it is more appropriate for me to say that I don't mind the US government and I don't mind America. The only people I really love are my family members but I'm sure the title may trigger some Anti-government, taxation is theft, angry/fearful people. My intentions of this post are not to trigger anyone, but rather give a viewpoint from a person such as myself who doesn't mind what happens and lives a rather care-free existence. Most days I am extremely happy and thankful for the blessings in my life.

There was a point not too long ago(8 years) where I gave a shit about a lot of things that were not in my control and a point in life where I was not grateful for the rather comfy accommodations that being a US citizen has afforded me. I was also caught up in thoughts and everyday seemed like a mental fight. From morning until night I could not turn off the thoughts in my head and not until I learned some life saving meditation techniques was I able to really experience serenity. But that can be saved for another post. . .Today we are going to talk about @rawdawg not minding the US government and not minding America.

  • I guess the first question I would have is why should I be anti-government or against the rather peaceful accommodations in America? If I look back on history it seems to me that things could have turned out a lot worse for human beings. Lets just touch on World War II. Would things in the world be better if Hitler won World War II and the Nazi regime took control of Europe and was the global powerhouse? This is a serious question for readers of this post. Maybe there are some people who disagree and I would be open to hearing their viewpoints. Or maybe my history is wrong and the United States did not play a major part in World War II coming to an end. Correct me if I'm wrong there.

  • The US government has never done anything to me personally for me to have a problem with them and I also have never done anything to incite violence or poke the bear. I read a story about someone who didn't pay his federal taxes for many years and then took out ads in the newspaper encouraging the government to come after him. This is pretty fucking stupid if you ask me, but to each is own. He was subsequently arrested and thrown in jail and complains how taxation is theft and blah blah blah. Dude probably wouldn't have got caught if he didn't bring attention to himself. I respect someone for sticking to their convictions but can you imagine having a beer with someone like this. Angry little man if you ask me. . .Maybe I'm just one of those "sheep" everyone talks about. Who knows. Quite frankly I feel the government system has many issues but not enough for me to be so black and white in my thinking to feel that the whole system needs to be abolished. It needs a tune up but the total elimination of the US government would have dire consequences for global existence. I would love to hear from the anti-government folk on this one. What has the US government done to you that has been so life changing that you think it should be abolished? I would also like the answer to this question. Why do you people seem so fucking angry? And last question, what would happen to the US if our government was abolished but all other countries still maintained their forms of government? Would things be better or worse for US citizens than they are now?

  • I don't mind living in the country with the largest military in the entire world and quite frankly I am grateful I was born in such a country. Wars have been occurring since 2700 BCE and to think that they are going to stop any time soon is a rather unrealistic utopian outlook. In fact, wars are not actually the problem, but rather religion and borders are the issue. Maybe the anti-war folk should focus on getting countries to renounce their borders and eliminate religious beliefs as a method to stop war. This would be the only chance at world peace. Doesn't seem like that is a realistic possibility any time soon, so in the mean time I wont mind that I live safely in the USA.

  • Ultimately joy, peace, and serenity in life has nothing to do with outside forces. If you are looking for freedom, looking for peace, looking for happiness it starts with "you" and not that which happens outside of "you". It starts with inner reflection and a search for whom you really are. Freedom is available for every person right here and NOW regardless of your physical location on this planet or the government that is controlling your mind. The freedom that I am speaking of is greater than all worldly ideas and it has to do with the peace that goes beyond understanding. Take a moment to find yourself inside and that which occurs outside will no longer be a threat. Know Thyself as mentioned in certain spiritual texts. Ultimately we are small specks in an ever changing and expanding universe. Enjoy the ride and don't mind what happens. It works for me. :)
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America hasn't done anything to me to deserve any kind of strong feelings against it. But that is obviously personal, like any other world power in history, it would have a lot of people who have very strong feelings about it.
For now, it does not interfere with my life too much, so I can maintain my neutrality. But things change, who knows what will happen in 10 years.
Ultimately you need to take patriotism with a giant block of salt.

Yes WW2 was easy to identify hatred and what to fight for. Today corruption in government and economic recklessness makes the future dubious. The debt will or is already unsustainable levels.

Nope. WWII was another Imperialist debacle which was provoked by Roosevelt to get the US involved. There is never a "good" target for hatred or slaughter. Da fuq is wrong with people?

listen maybe you would have wanted the nazi regime to win, but I didn’t.

Or....Maybe America could have kept it's nose out of shit that didn't/doesn't belong to us, the Banks could have stopped bankrolling the Nazis and Roosevelt could have left Japan right the fuck alone.

Instead, we go off and cause a few hundred American citizens to be murdered so we can turn around and ramp up the carnage. Don't give me this Statist Bootlicking BS about "We're the good guys." We operated Concentration camps both within the US and abroad, slaughtered civilians, firebombed countless cities and smuggled HUNDREDS of Nazi's into the US. Open a fucking history book.

How do you think the war would have worked out without US intervention? Lets take a step back from making assumptions and laying blame. What would present-day world look like in your opinion.

Yes, nobody should have confronted the nazi regime. That would have turned out so much better for the world /sarc. History book? I had family perish in Europe. If it wasn’t for the United States I wouldn’t be here now. So go take whatever history book you “learned” from and preach it elsewhere.

Me either, present-day may be quite different regardless of the reasons the US entered the war.

#triggered

You'd probably have a different perspective on the US government if you were a family member to one of the 6,047 innocent people who've died as a result of Obama and Trump's drone campaign. source

I personally am annoyed that my grandmother is legally prevented from growing medicine to treat her stomach cancer symptoms just to protect the pharmaceutical industry, which also happens to be the #4 cause of accidental death in the US. source

I'm guessing you haven't spent much time researching the 9/11 lie. great 5 min vid on dtube

Are you happy to pay for Hillary Clinton's $12,000 dresses? source

You'd probably mind if I hacked into your bank account and stole 30% of your money then used it to fly around in private jets and hire private security forces to escort me around on vacations which you paid for. Why is it cool when the government does it?

Still love ya bud ;)

See, this is why I love America! Because you get to have these opinions.

Do you know what I find most interesting? When anyone who hates the US Government so much ever sticks around .. you know, if the Government is so bad and all ... Did you miss the part where you have the Freedom to leave at any time?

Oh, you also have the Freedom to stay here and complain ... and at the end of the day, so many people love to just do that. If that's who you want to be, at least you know you'll have plenty of company!

/to be read with sarcasm

You realize that fallacy works both ways right? If you love the government so much, why don't you move to North Korea?

I'm sorry that you lack the vision to imagine a better world. Stockholm syndrome is a bitch. The government didn't give me freedom of speech, I was born with it.

I guess you missed the sarcasm part, so here's another fun nugget.

It must be nice to be allowed to exercise your right to freedom of speech in such a distopian society with an oppressive government like the US Government.

It's not a lack of imagination for a better country or a better world. It's the lack of awareness from those living in it that consistently baffles me. People are so quick to complain and say that they have and deserve all of these rights but they are slow to act in ways to earn or keep those rights. Complaining is much easier than action though, so why not just do that all of the time instead of getting up and doing something.

If there's something that you don't like in the world, you have to change it. It's not going to magically get done by someone else just because you said so. Enjoy that freedom of speech. You deserve it.

I like how you just presume to know what I do in my life.

You are aware that the original patriots instigated a violent revolution against their government over a 20-30% tax on tea right? Yet here you are happy to pay 35%+ of your entire income, and you can't even be bothered by someone who wants to criticize that policy. You should be ashamed to even call yourself an American.

You are aware that the original patriots instigated a violent revolution against their government over a 20-30% tax on tea right?

OMG!?! REALLY???

I've never heard more of an oversimplification in my life. And that's impressive, because I do it all the time myself!

You must not have read my previous comment, so I'll let you re-read it and try to let it sink in.

Here's an except:

If there's something that you don't like in the world, you have to change it. It's not going to magically get done by someone else just because you said so.

--Yes, we are at war and have been for a while. Some wars are fought overtly and some covertly and there are innocent civilians who die. I accept that war is happening and has been happening for 1000's of years. The US is not the only country to cause civilian deaths in the world.

--I don't like that marijuana is illegal on a federal level either, however I'm sure you can find a way for grandma to get some smoke and if she chose to grow some on her own they wouldn't throw her in the slammer for it. In China, Iran. Singapore, Thailand, Saudi Arabia, Malaysia, Philippines you can be sentenced to death or PUBLIC LASHINGS for possession of certain amounts of cannabis. China executed 400+ people for drug related offenses many being marijuana. That would really suck if we had those type of laws. China also parades people around in stadium publicly as thousands come and watch as people are sentenced to death. Imagine judges lashing people for getting caught with a few ounces of weed or public trials where we humiliate people who are going to be sentenced to death.

--I watched the towers get hit live on 9/11. I don't buy into conspiracy theories. Just about anything can be turned into a conspiracy and the "truth" is probably somewhere in the grey area. Not everything is black and white. The cited video is from a conspiracy theorist who has "truths" about many different things. You are correct I haven't researched 9/11, nor have I researched those doing the "reporting". I am ok not knowing.

--Hillary Clinton is a lifetime politician who has probably done worse than buy $12,000 dresses. Any large organization will have some corruption. Government, business, or otherwise.

--In my lifetime, i have paid more in taxes than 90% of people in the United States, so if anyone has a right to complain it would be me, but I choose to focus attention on personal peace of mind rather than things out of my control.

Overall, I would much rather have the US government in place than many others or no government at all. I still don't mind being an American.

"China also parades people around in stadium publicly as thousands come and watch as people are sentenced to death."

The 6th Amendment of the US Constitution guarantees my right to a quick and speedy public trial. China just has a higher caseload. It's coming here, too. Wait for it.

"I don't buy into conspiracy theories. Just about anything can be turned into a conspiracy and the "truth" is probably somewhere in the grey area."

I have a VERY hard time "believing" conspiracy theories, as well. But Tower 7 was never hit with a plane, and the BBC announced that Tower 7 had collapsed, even though it was clearly visible behind the right shoulder of the reporter who made those bold claims.

Also, a lot of first hand witnesses said they heard explosions in the lower levels of the building. Just a lot of weird shit that was going on that day. Also, the "magic passport" that they "found" in the rubble was complete and utter horse shit. At least we can all admit that much?

"I am okay not knowing." <- this says it all really.

If you are willfully ignorant, then I won't bother you with any more logic or information. Everything else you've typed as a response to my comment boils down to the fallacy of relative privation. A is okay because B is worse than A. By your logic, rape is perfectly acceptable because murder happens.

Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise

And

I don't mind what happens

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May I touch on the ww2 part, the biggest contribution to taking down the nazis was Russia and a battle against the nazis in the snow and ice in Russia, if you research it you will see my point, now do not get me wrong, I am English, and like you we make loads of propaganda movies that make the UK out to be the on's who contributed the most to winning the bankers war, Bankers war you ask? yes it was a war against central banks, and not at all what you have been led to believe, it started in 1934 I think was the year, when the jews declared a trade war on Germany, a simple internet search will show you the ins and outs of that bit, so you see, all you think you know is not quite the case, I may also suggest you watch everything is a rich mans trick on yoyutube, if you want more info on this , peace and love, stay awesome.

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