RE: #futurology - Let's Talk About Tomorrow
I can't be certain, but I suspect that you have some unexamined assumptions as starting points in your conjecturing.
For instance, it appears that you assume that the current state of scientific knowledge is the pinnacle achieved by hundreds or thousands of years of human intellectual "evolution".
There is substantial evidence, definitely suppressed by incumbent academics protecting their reigning theoretical power bases, that high levels of scientific knowledge and achievement were attained in previous ages.
Many known civilizations have arisen, developed, matured, grown old and collapsed. Some unknown ones as well. And there is substantial new evidence that a very high achievement civilization of a previous epic was wiped out by cataclysmic change rather than a normal gradually evolving lifespan of events as described in Toynbee's "Study of History".
How could knowledge of scientific achievements of the very distant past, attainments in technology and wisdom, be transmitted to descendants far in the future anyway? (given the inevitability of periodic wars, revolutions, mass religious or political psychoses, book burnings, floods, fires, earthquakes, and collapses of civilizations from internal corruption and/or barbaric invasions).
Not much survives even the normal course of events, let alone the occasional cataclysmic occurrences that we can see in the geologic records.
And is time an arrow or cyclical? (Golden Age -> Silver Age-> Bronze Age -> Age of Heroes -> Iron Age ............. rinse and repeat - a mythological description of a scientific possibility).
Certainly not discounting the possibility of an occulted past, although whatever I've studied over before didn't seem to point to any conclusive evidence of a high-tech digital / informational societies. Any good source I can go over?
Perhaps, although so far there aren't anything pointing anything close to some internet-type technology in the past. Again, certainly not discounting the possibility though - always something to be learned on what to avoid etc. But what remains is that the future is still unwritten and we can steer it. Have you read this book before? Canticle for Leibowitz
"didn't seem to point to any conclusive evidence of a high-tech digital / informational societies"
You're right. I have seen no evidence for that either (although that doesn't necessarily preclude it). But I have seen plenty of evidence of higher attainments in technologies in areas that we sometimes relegate to "magic" simply because any advanced technology appears magical to those who have no understanding of the underlying dynamics (reference "cargo cults"). Certainly our particular lines of technological development are not exclusive. As to sources, I think any open-minded investigation into how the pyramids, or some other stoneworks in Egypt and South America, were done will lead you to the conclusion that our current technology cannot account for them.
"although so far there aren't anything pointing anything close to some internet-type technology in the past"
There are pointers, however, to completely alien crystal technology and to telepathic development by peoples that we would normally consider completely non-technical. There is no reason for us to conclude yet that internet-type technology is a culminating or most desirable achievement.
I will try to look into the book you recommend this weekend. Thank you.
Are we talking about the Annunaki, Enki, etc ~ stuff in the Spirit Science channel on Youtube?
Yup definitely, it may very well be only a step to facilitate communication and sharing of information. It's possible that other civs have developed something else entirely that doesnt even require something like the internet too. Btw, i personally think blockchain tech is quite alien lol. Satoshi Nakamoto may even be one of the hints sent in by the alien overlords, if in fact theyre watching us behind the scenes :)
I have never seen the Spirit Science channel. What is tickling my fancy these days is the new book by Graham Hancock: "Magicians of the Gods"
Interesting, I see that it has got some quite good reviews - just got them on kindle. Thanks! something interesting to read this weekend :)
"My dear and beloved Grandfather, tell me, please what does the word Legominism mean?" Hassein asked.
"This word Legominism," replied Beelzebub, "is given to one of the means existing there of transmitting from generation to generation information about certain events of long-past ages, through just those three-centered beings who are thought worthy to be and who are called initiates."
from Beelzebub's Tales to his Grandson, p.349
I have my own Beelzebub story :D need to look through my facebook notes lol
Yes, it would be interesting to see what is on p.349 of your story.