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I fully agree. I was just about to write the same comment.

Forced in what way? Most people agree there should be a government, the people who don't want a government are in fact a very small minority.

So you don't care about minorities? What they want? Their rights? Forcing because we must live by the rules created by this 'government' and our money is even stolen to fund it.

So, if a group doesn't want a government they could be given a certain area where they could exercise their ideas. That would be great, we'd see which idea is better. No way to see if this consensus idea really works.

So you don't like my idea?

It sounds like you could be a voluntaryist. A society with no coercion, we could try different systems and find a best one, or maybe there is no best one. If you like tax funded healthcare and police and schools (even though it's proven that these services are far better when privatized) then you could get together like minded and do that. No one stopping voluntary interactions. As opposed to your idea where you have to ask a government to let you live how you want.

Where do I say I want to ask a government to let me live how I want? In fact I am saying government should be as small as possible and have no say except in services which are needed by everyone and can't be provided individually. I don't know where it has been proven those services are far better when privatized, I live in Central America and nearly everything is privatized and because of that we are much poorer, on the other hand my country Honduras, which is the poorest in Central America also has 270 millionaires including 1 billionaire they are worth about 28,ooo million USD as a whole which is more than our yearly GDP, thanks to the privatization of these services. I think you should look at the experiences of these countries before coming to conclusions.

"if a group doesn't want a government they could be given a certain area where they could exercise their ideas" You might as well have said "exercise their rights" If the government has the power to give people a certain area to live, it also has the power to take it. That, as well as free school and healthcare, means the government is not as small as possible. It controls education... It controls what everyone in the country will be taught, it controls what children will be brainwashed into believing. It controls healthcare... It controls who gets treatment, who gets to live and die. Government controls your health. Police? and laws? so it gets to control how everyone lives, yes. You're granting a small group of people the power to create and enforce unjust laws. None of these things are small or 'necessary' (the forcing of it, not the service itself) No country right now is a prime example of the way we should be living. I am in Canada, my friend is currently in central america getting a surgery he needed because he couldn't here. People die in waiting lists on our free healthcare. I've not seen a single person content with the healthcare system. So, I think you should look into the experiences in these borderline socialist countries to come to conclusions as well. I can give you many links if you are interested, and you can add me on facebook if you want. Voluntaryist really is best. Freedom comes first!

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