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RE: It was never about capitalism vs communism - it was always about centralized vs decentralized

in #liberty8 years ago

Ironically, I had this same conversation over lunch.

We ended on the discussion that decentralized works great until there is a serious conflict. (Usually someone breaking the rules/finds an unwritten opportunity to exploit.) From a blockchain perspective, the current solution is a hard fork. The powers that ultimately determine if a hard fork is required are effectively centralized.

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Yes, the Tyranny of the First Defector is a very real thing in consensus cultures if there's something to be won by cheating.

Which would then lead to the usual first response of using force to "control/police" the cheater. The interesting aspect of steemit is that the "downvote" essentially enables a decentralized method of imposing that force.

yes thats true, in steem we have the possibility to vote in an decentralized way if we want to make a hardfork and if so what we want to change. The great thing is, thats all open source, so you have the choice to take part or not and copy it. In the future we don't need a world government and a world currency. We need a diversity of networking platforms and currencies. Every mono-culture is not resilient and therefore instable.

Because instituting cheating is a great solution to "serious conflict".
Centralization is systemized cheating.

Nice post.
May be communism or capitalism or else is only a sort of carrot for donkey?
Leaders speech is about politics and people but their solutions are about their power.
Power has only one goal -- more power, form of government does not matter, and usually it is only the symbol, not reality.

What do you think about my post about new form of social organization by blockchain?
https://steemit.com/blockchain/@soomrack/bitcoin-blockchain-steem-middlesociety-and-math-management

When is there not something to be won by cheating?

Trivia: when I was doing TV interviews, I sometimes had a little fun with the interviewing team while they were still setting up their equipment and obviously hadn't started recording (like I could see the tape slot on the TV camera still being open), and so I said things in a sincere voice like,

-- but you have to understand in this context, that I'm a politician. So it's never cheating if you don't get caught.

It was always fun to see them get stressed to get the recording started in case I would say something more like that on tape. :)

Journalists, bless their hearts!

A hard fork proposal can come from the community rather than the developers, and members can choose not to install a hard fork and continue the old chain. Look at ethereum.

@comcentrate : This is a good point. But correct me if I am wrong, Ethereum Classic is still susceptible to a replay attack. So, although many have chosen to remain with ETC after block 1920000, they are putting themselves at a higher risk than switching to the ETH chain.

But I definitely see your point though. They were not forced to change by the developers..

Yes, ETC has very low hash power, no one is developing apps - it's probably not going to survive. But the lessons we will learn from the DAO scandal keep coming, and they aren't stopping anytime soon!