UK Murder +27% In 2017; Govt Determined To Ruin What's Left By Embracing Islam
Islam is a garbage religion. If you subscribe to it, there's a good chance you are a garbage person. I'm sorry to have to be so blunt about it, but the numbers are in, and those numbers are terrifying.
Islam expressly encourages literally endless war for religious conquest (please hold your "Whataboutisms" until the end) and the violent conversion or execution of all non-faithful. It terribly restricts the freedom and thoughts of all adherents. It applies savage and overbearing punishments with no intention of rehabilitation. It is responsible for most of the worst regimes (poorest, most oppressive) on this planet, and almost all of the (non-directly state-sanctioned) terrorism. Frankly, you'd have to be on the lower end of average intelligence to actually believe any of the ridiculous theology. (I wouldn't recommend the Koran if you're not a fan of stories about Muslim Warlord-Prophets raping nine-year old girls for fun...just sayin'.)
That's a rather hefty price to pay for the benefits Islam brings of....er...um...
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Other than the imams and state leaders at the top of trashy desert countries with citizens' quality of life in the toilet, a few terrorist leaders, and some foreign-based proselytizers, literally no human beings benefit from the existence of Islam. It's a pox on history.
Perhaps most importantly, it has collectively added almost nothing to the whole of humanity other than suffering for almost 1000 years. Although, Islam is rather good at subtracting from humanity. According to Abd'l Latif of Baghdad, (1162–1231) the library of Alexandria "was destroyed by Amr, by the order of the Caliph Omar." So much for the greatest repository of human knowledge prior to the internet. Wouldn't want the plebs to have science, they might not believe magical stories about child rapist-leaders if they have education.
Hell, Islam is far worse than even something like Scientology, a bona-fide cult/scam, simply on the basis of Islam's vastly larger reach of pain and oppression. I haven't heard of Scientology bombing any Ariana Grande concerts recently.
If you disagree, you are a reality denying garbage person, hopelessly brainwashed into political correctness, or an agent provocateur hired by the opposition. If you think this is racist, you are a stupid person who thinks race = religion. This is a culture problem. ("Goat fucking" as a Google search term trend is always at its worldwide peak in the Middle East. At least we just have Kardashians.)
None of these FACTS seem to be stopping the British "deep state/government" from putting in bulk orders for Hijabs and trying to force their women into black sacks as quickly as possible.
In 2017 alone, Islamist charities (many confirmed fronts for actual terrorist organizations, like the Muslim Brotherhood) were funded at least 6 million pounds of taxpayer funds to directly work against the society hosting them. These numbers were revealed in an a study by the Henry Jackson society, and are more illustrative than comprehensive - the problem is suspected of being far more widespread.
The bottom line is that huge amounts of taxpayer funds are going directly to funding the conquering of those same taxpayers by outside forces who have explicitly stated they wish to destroy their entire way of life.
At St. Stephen's primary school in London, several teachers and administrators were fired and referred to as "Hitler" for maintaining a ban on the Hijab for girls under 8, despite Islam not even requiring it before puberty. We've gotten to the point where the OPPRESSORS are calling the OPPRESSED "Hitler."
Rest assured other schools will be reticent to take a stand now that they expect to be fired over implementing common sense.
Scotland Yard is wasting their time (and citizen's money) going around town to Mosques to try and get "unreported hate crimes against Muslims" reported. Even the concept of hate crimes is juvenile and internally inconsistent, and only a brainless idiot would vote for or implement them....let alone go around town asking for more.
How about we finish with some stats that justify my brutally blunt opening paragraphs?
I'm a reasonable person and certainly not a hater of any sect of humanity. I attack the ideology or the organization, not the individual, who is always capable of changing their mind and coming to the light.
However, the statistics on Muslim "integration" in the UK are so horrifying that the true haters are anyone not calling out the truth for everyone to hear because they are afraid of some PC bullshit.
Which one of you politically correct losers wants to defend a 27% increase in homicides IN THE PAST YEAR ALONE? Maybe you'd prefer to take a crack at the 31% increase in knife crimes? The 20% increase in rapes?
Or perhaps we should talk about the 80% RATE OF CHILD SEX ABUSE OFFENDERS BEING PAKISTANI? Come on, are there any Social Justice Warriors out there who want to take on a challenge?
I'll toss you some red meat - maybe we can't blame them because it's not their fault! After all, "Nearly 70% of Pakistanis are the product of inbreeding in Islam, mostly due to the Muslim tradition of marrying cousins via choice or arrangement. BBC also released a study, revealing that approximately 55% of Pakistani immigrants in Britain were married to a first cousin and that Pakistani-British were “at least 13 times likely to than the general population to have children with recessive genetic disorders.”"
BBC, that might be a tougher source to discredit.
A 27% increase in homicides means the UK is already practically at the threshold of Mad Max.
Are you eager to import Islam into your country?
Perhaps more to the point, are you ready to get rid of it yet?
Sources: Google, London Mayor's Office For Crime, UK Crime Statistics, BBC, The Independent, Statista, Wikipedia, Henry Jackson Society, ZH, Gatestone Institute, @Squawker.Org, DailyHaha
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If this were a criticism of Catholic priests and molestation of young boys, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Frankly, I don't have much to say that is positive about any of the
common superstitions used by the ruling classes to control the lower classesreligions, but you start where the fire is greatest.But when we're talking about entire (third-world) nations who oppress women, gays, engage in capital punishment for free speech and adultery, etc, all in the name of their "one true religion", apparently criticism is a risky business.
I have a lot of respect for you as a person lex, but I don't have respect for this. It looks like you've just bought into a whole lot of propaganda and present us with the extremists as though they represent Islam.
You're more intelligent than this. You're looking for something to blame for the list of issues from your post, but you wrote them as specific to their own countries, which shows there is no connection to the religion which expand out into many countries innocent of the same issue.
You can take the extremists of the world and use them to make anything they choose as their badge of righteousness look bad. The only reason you don't see it as much with Christianity is because the media is practically run by Christians, but we both know there are extremists using Christianity to excuse their extremism. Anything we feel threatened by, we can just selectively portray extremists who use anarchy to justify violence, or feminism to justify being constantly offended. It doesn't change what a religious culture or ideology is just because I as an individual decide to use it to irrationally justify my immoral behaviour.
Look, I read the man's article, and yes, you can feel his rage coming from behind the words. But before making comparisons between Christianity and Islam, I think, every person living in a multicultural country should ask themselves these questions: Is the feeling of rage when looking at those numbers legitimate? Is there a solid connection between these statistics and the muslim population? Is the rage that you feel enough to actually be motivated into looking at what are the causes of the increased statistics? Are you level headed enough as to not to blame an entire population for these statistics but at the same time not to be fearful of being called racist/islamophobe if you find that the rise in criminality comes from the islamic community?
Ok, now, about Islam. My opinion is it was never a religion of peace, it always was a religion created for conquest by using subversion when force was impossible to use and domination and enslavement when there was no resistance. Of course, one of the subversive tactics used by Islam is to picture Islam as a religion of peace, all the while shutting down critics that say otherwise, and all the while maintaining its number of followers through threat and social pressure.
Of course not all muslims are bad people. In fact, I'm sure most of them are decent people. But when you follow a religion that is based on writing that claim they are the literal word of God, and from those writings you have Sharia Law - do you actually think that most muslims would follow what they believe to be the law of God or UK's law? (yes I know about that part of the Koran where it says that muslim should follow the law of the land... but the same passage goes next to say that "as long as it doesn't violate God's law, and what do you think most muslims would view as God's Law? Wouldn't that be Sharia Law?)
In the end, you may consider that the poster's rage is hateful. I'd say is fearful of what Islam brings and exasperated at his countrymen's passivity and indulgence, and I'd also add that these feeling are justified.
Take it from a person that lives in eastern Europe, and whose country was under Sharia Law at some point in history. Under Sharia Law we had to pay the jizya that was either in gold or in "blood" (as in if we didn't send gold we had to send children over 10 to be trained as jannisaries in the Ottoman army). Maybe this argument seems old to you and maybe you think that Islam has changed in the meantime, like Christianity did about some of its practices. I'd hapilly hear about how Islam has changed, as long as the Koran is (in muslims' minds) the literal word of God.
Statistics:
Q:How many muslims there are in the worls?
A: 1.8 Billion muslims. Source: Muslims and Islam: Key findings in the U.S. and around the world
Q: How many islamic terrorists are there?
A: There are less then 600 thousand muslim terrorists related to ISIS When ISIS was at it's peak. (2015-2016). Source: Wikipedia: Military activity of ISIL
That makes them 0.3%
Question:
Can we analyse a social group or category based on the attitude of 0.3% of them. Considering that the 0.3% don't even recognise the other 99.7% as muslims?
PS: You can apply this same methode with: muslim rapists, muslim criminals, muslim theves or whatever minority you want to emphasize!
I am not talking only about islamist terrorists. I am also reffering to other religious practices that the western world would see as barbaric: such as the general practice of keeping women dominated (through the use of FGM, through the mandatory covering with a hijab/burka, through the practice of wife-beating if she refuses to have sex with her husband, through the practice of rape if the woman is unnacompanied by a man, through the inequal treatment in face of trial (the word of a woman counts as 25% than that of a man))
I am also reffering to the practice of killing homosexuals.
I am also reffering to the practice of treating non-muslims as lesser people, and feeling entitled to rape non-muslim women.
I am also reffering to the practice of enslaving people that goes on still to this day in some fundemantalist muslim countries.
I know that most muslim people don't adhere to these practices, but they do exist. And these practices do follow the teachings in the Koran. I know that most muslims just want to live their lives in peace in their communities, but if such a situation would arise where they would be called to vote in order to implement Sharia Law (which endorses most if not all the practices mentioned above) in a country, would you think that muslims would vote for or against such a law, also taking into consideration that other muslims would call them bad muslims if they wouldn't?
I honestly dubt that when push comes to shove, the average muslim would vote for a secular law instead for what their own religion tells them to be the law of God.
In this case I'm going to take the numbers that you presented as true without fact checking, because in my opinion they are of little consequence for this discussion. And that's because Islam has many more abhorrent practices than just kamikaze warriors of Allah driving the truck of peace into the unbelievers. I'm not saying these practices are done by the majority, and I know there are also differences from countries to countries and there are different interpretations of the teachings, and not all muslims take to heart all the teachings the same. But, in the end, all of these practices are codified in your holy writings, and the continued use of these practices stem from the basic belief that the Koran is the word of God (and you'll find many/the majority/all muslims asking "But if the Koran says it's allowed to do this, and the Koran is the actual word of God, how can the Koran be wrong?")
Now let me ask you, let's suppose that you would live in ...I don't know... pick a "western" country with many muslim that at some point immigrated there, doesn't matter which one... let's say Germany. Would you be for or against implementing Sharia Law there? and why or why not?
...trying to use logical content against the emotionally charged low IQ individuals is pointless.
They know they will lose the argument, so can only resort to wide ranging generalizations that avoid reality.
You know what @lexiconical, I may not in agreement with you all of the time on topics we're facing on here as a society in general. But nevertheless, there's one thing that I admire you for having the balls to speak your mind without having to worry that your pussy followers might un-follow you or worst get flagged by those psychologically incapacitated butthurts who can't handle the unpalatable truth.
It's the reason why we're here--for the unparalleled freedom of speech! Otherwise, let's go back to Facebook and circle jerk each other to artificially please our fragile notion of moral standard.
That is hipokracy of lefts, they hate catholicysm and they use hate speeh aganst this religion but when you try tell truth about islam they start attack and call you racist, nazist ect ...They dont have arguments just ideology and by this ideology europe become a islamic state by 10/30 years.
@lexiconical If you continue to use @therealwolf's services after something like this, I will lose respect for you.
You should tell them to go fuck themselves and stand with truth.
It wasn't really directed at you, @therealwolf. Obviously, as a business owner, you have the right to set the parameters of your service. As far as you go, I'm neutral. You run your business the way you see fit.
But I will lose respect for someone who claims to stand for truth, but will continue to make a profit off of using a service that suppresses said truth.
O my god.. O my god lexi..
I read your post full of hate.. If you have a pure kind heart you neva used any harsh word to hurt millions of ppls heart..
You have alot of questions about islam but you can discus them without using bad words.. Your post made me speechless and so heart broken as i was considering steemit community a lovely kind community..
Thanx for all sending positive vibes here..
You used facts available on internet... I ll answer you with facts soon..
The reason I am not automatically removing all votes is because the post has some truth in it - facts are facts for a reason. And we are on Steemit and STEEM (a decentralised medium) due to free-speech.
I don't believe and won't accept putting the blame on islam as religion, but the fact that crime has risen is something to worry about!
There are zero facts. Non of the sources properly cited for verification. Premise and conclusion of the post is bigotry and hatred in its entirety. It is a shame you choose to support bigotry and hatred. I think I have read somewhere focus of @smartsteem was to quality posts that add value to the platform.
Regardless of any further outcome(s), I commend you standing up for free speech whether you agree with it or not or find it controversial.
I was prepared for flags or vote removals and was willing to live with the consequences.
If i answer to all of your statement, i will bee the same fool as you are. So hopefully you will widen your point of view of islam.
Islam is a psychological disease. Get over it!
Are you not discriminating against people with a higher IQ than yourself?
Some discrimination is OK. We discriminate against corruption when giving money to charity or businesses. We discriminate against the sex we'd rather not be intimately involved with. We discriminate against people without the skills when hiring.
As for the higher IQ, there is neither grounds to discriminate nor any evidence of being discriminated here. So your comment just looks like inflammatory trolling for the sake of having something to say when you don't.
I was saying it with sense of irony.
There was nothing hateful or racist/sexist/homophobic in the facts he presented in the post.
...ergo the comment I highlighted was nothing but virtue signalling...
If you think that trolling is highlighting another's non logical position, and is inflammatory - that would also mean non confrontational discussion is the only one worth having...?
Long live echo chambers?
Logical argument v's non logic argument indicates a different level of IQ. (emotional sentences v's logical progression is indicative of where you might lie on on the IQ bell curve).
You could therefor be argued that it is indeed discriminatory, if the recipient of that sentence is offended by it.
It would be valid in the post modernistic relativism argument context....
Thank you for the interesting reply.
The first line of the post says if you're Islamic you're garbage. What would you call that? Statistical data?
The entire post is more emotionally backed up by propaganda than it is unemotional statistical facts - hence the connection to Islam with statistics unrelated to Islam.
The response you're calling emotional is actually based on personal experience with real people in the real world. Which is where those of us who aren't as easily bought by the hate propaganda that drives you people to to support war against these nations live. The real world.
We get to know these people without the fear that's propagated into the brain washed minds of north America, and we see exactly where we are different and where we are not. If Islam were the reason then each nationality would come with the same difference, but we can say from personal experience getting to know these religious non extremists that they are not all the same at all, and we are more the same than we are different, with the same fears and wants for peace.
I am amazed with the courage you maintain the truth of Islam.
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From a non emotional response.
I had a (ex)muslim girlfriend, (who suffered fgm)
I grew up in the UK, in a town with a large muslim population. My school was 35% pakistani.
My life, girlfriends, and experiences dwarfs the majority of peoples interaction with different cultures.
(I'm not saying your own)
....I now have an Asian girlfriend, who is Buddhist.
I am not any 'ist' that I can think of.
Islam is extremely sexist racist and homophobic. (from reading and from the experiences my girlfriend told me about).
What is your opinion on this, btw? - How do you reconcile islam with Islamic law in respect of, say womens rights?
The fundamental problem with islam teaching - as opposed to western christian values (i'm not religious, btw) - is the concept of deception being completely acceptable and encouraged if it means the furthering islam.
And in a state of war (the english town of the rotherham rape cases), the teachings can change any non islamic person - totally subjectively - to a person to being seen as an enemy.
And as an enemy to islam, is automatically demotes other human beings to 'collateral' damage, affording the 'enemy' no respect.
Thanks for your reply.
To answer, let's talk correlation vs causation.
You mention 35% of your school was Pakistani. So any statistics from this have not only the correlation of Islam but also Pakistan, which is a nation with its own culture. They happen to be Islamic, another correlation. You didn't mention whether your school was an all boy school, but if so, there's another correlation to consider.
As any educated person should know, correlation doesn't mean causation, so why do we choose Islam as the blame, or was it even us who decided that?
Africa is a continent where fgm exists in both Christian and Islamic countries. So there isn't necessarily even a correlation between fgm and Islam nevermind a causal relationship. Note that these are developing countries were talking about - all of them - so there's a finer correlation to work from. And as noted by @bitius already, colonialism has had a major impact on development in these countries.
You're talking of one woman's experience of Islam in the country she was raised in. I can easily assume that experience to be very real, and I'm unsurprised if she blames Islam for teaching Pakistani people this sexist way of maintaining power over women. All of these underdeveloped countries where women are violently oppressed are struggling for power. They can take power over their women and this is an easily exploited industry. I call it an industry intentionally. It's almost always about money and this is in places where there are not 101 ways to make money, so control of their women is a symptom of their failed economies. It has nothing to do with religion, religion is just used to justify the cruelty. If they didn't have religion, they would find another excuse. The human mind has a magical way of doing that, and is made easier by cultural norms.
In my own country, Ireland, there was a time before Christianity when pagan Irish worshipped the woman as the symbol of life and death. It was after Ireland got it's independence back that the catholic church gained power over Ireland. Since the great famine took place less than 60 years prior, the population of Ireland was low. Women having children out of wedlock were imprisoned in laundry facilities and their babies taken and "given" away. Contraception was illegal and so was divorce. Those who didn't want to be imprisoned had to marry and were no longer allowed to work for an income. This is less than 100 years ago in catholic Ireland when we were a developing country.
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I'll be your social justice warrior. Your article is complete garbage and you are probably a garbage person also.
Most of your article is what you and western media believe about Islam, not what Muslims believe about Islam. I'll counter a few points, but not really interested in challenging extremist ideologies.
Islam gave us doctors, hospitals, and all sorts, and spread that tech to the West. And they were socially way ahead of us during the Ottoman empire (very gay friendly), but regressed.
The Koran is just a more up to date hardfork of the bible. You can take quotes and read into them anyway you want. From y own reading of it, it is a chill religion which emphasizes doing good, and not hurting people. Even says that Christians and Jews are cool, and there is a signed document that still exists from Mohamed saying not to harm them or their places of worship. Of course lots of religious people don't follow their books or prophets.
On war and terrorism. The Christian terrorism named "war on terror" has claimed millions and millions of lives, making any Muslim terrorism look like child's play.
I'll also be your politically correct loser.
Violence and violent crimes within a population increase as inequality increase. It is a bit funny pointing at a religion and saying "that's the one there! He did it! He raised that crime!" :D
You are correct though about the PC culture preventing police and others from looking into real stuff going on, which is a shameful thing about this country.
I spent 6 months in Pakistan. Dwarfism was common in some country areas. Mainly because the Koran says to give your first cousin preference in marriage :D (Something which people are beginning to drop).
It was very nice to visit a Muslim country. People are a lot nicer and more respectful. And they wonder why we hate them.
Anyway your article comes off as a hateful piece strung together with whatever you could find to support your views.
Being a younger person (your views sound way old), I have a lot of friends in the UK who are Muslim. I would love to import more of their Islam.
You know nothing of history. The so called golden age of islam was a periode where islam stood relatively weak. Islam kills innovation free thought and technology. Name one nobel prize winner from a muslim country. Islam did not give us doctors. What are you even?
Coulf you explain to 100.000 british girls how they were raped and tortured for the greater good of multiculture? Great.
You are retarded.
The hospital was one of many great achievements of medieval Islamic society.
And lots of nobel prize winners have been Muslims from Muslim countries.
You have access to the internet and can educate yourself, but instead you stick to cult of anti-intellectualism.
Why do people like you even exist?
Cool. Send me a link to nobel price winning muslims! :)
But I can do it for you..1,4% of all nobel price winners have been muslims - and I suspect most of them have been the winner of "peace price" which we all know is a bullshit prize.
They like to mention a physicist in 1971 that won lol
So they are 2 billion people and stand for 1,4% of nobel prizes...impressive.
Ok..so what if they "invented" hospitals? Point is that most of the inventions and progress made during the golden age of islam was because it happened during a period where islam was very weak. After that period islam has been strong. Tell me what kind of innovations has come out of muslim countries the last 300 years?
Nothing.
Are you going to look those 100,000 12 year old british working class girls who's vaginas are destroyed forever that that happened for the greater good in the eyes or not?
I guess not.
But you're very good at name calling :)
Maybe It(following awards) can help you the minimum to decide about of Muslim.Not only this but also a lot of noble prize winning examples are available all over the world.Just you need to open your eyes.Please, don't blame us.We don't like debating.We are always fond of peace.So, brother please don't misunderstand us.
1,4% of winners are muslims. You are 2 billion people. You are clearly no math genius yourself..
Btw..these are "peace price winners" which we all know is not real nobel prizes. Just politically correct show. Obama won that price ...says it all. A war mongerer.
And what do you mean? You don't like debating? No..we notice that. You behead and kill people who don't blindly accept your bullshit. You're not fond of peace at all.You are a religion of war. And right now you have very cleverly invaded the western world and you are fighting us from within. I must say well done. And I'm not even sure if I support the west. We're so fucking stupid and naive that we probably deserve to go extinct.
Colonialism is one of many reasons why muslim and arab countries don't have a bigger percentage in nobel prize winners most of those countries got their fake"independence" in the late 50s and 60s.
Colonialism and the ramification it brings is still present to this day
dont blame islam for isis (aka alkaida2.0 aka US proxy army ).isis is a POLITICAL terror group created and armed by the US for advancing her own agenda.
If colonization was so great for the west how come they abandoned them? How comd they did that after the war when europe was in ruins. Makes no sense if colonies were so profitable. In fact is they were not. They was a loss to the british and french. Besides...the most successful coyntries in scandinavia did not have colonies. So explain how having colonoies stopped arabs from having prize winners.
Youre just repeating anti whitd propaganda and self hatred without thinking for 5 seconds.
Scary.
You can see my post about of Islam.Maybe, It can help you to know about of our great religion. Please, don't blame anyone or any person for your lacking knowledge of this person or religion.
Allah Said in Holy Quran-
O you who have believed, let not a people ridicule [another] people; perhaps they may be better than them; nor let women ridicule [other] women; perhaps they may be better than them. And do not insult one another and do not call each other by [offensive] nicknames. Wretched is the name of disobedience after [one's] faith. And whoever does not repent - then it is those who are the wrongdoers.
So, try to think about of this religion.
History/man deeds cannot be an example.For that reason, you can't blame all of us.The main theme of Islam is "Peace".
You may have overseen something important regarding the interpretation of the Quran: The rule of abrogation.
keep repeating your made up statistics, that have been repeated without any citation on a number of occasions now. It won't be any more true the 10th time you sprout that horse shit than it was the 1st time.
The 1.4% its the first google search on wiki 🤣🤣
except there was no mention of 1.4% in the post that I was replying to....
Care to explain which statistics you are asking for then?
Literally the only statistic that was mentioned in the comment I replied to. Why don't you work that out for yourself champ?
I agree with you,, I have write or maybe litle similiar like you say, but my english not good then I write in Indonesian Language. thanks for your contribution. nice to know you. best regard.
"Most of your article is what you and western media believe about Islam, not what Muslims believe about Islam."
Right, because they totally weren't factual statistics from various government offices and private watchdogs in the UK. LOL.
Jump in and defend that +27% murder rate in one year any time.
Your utter lack of citations make for a very poor argument against well-established statistics.
You hand-wave away massive increases to violent crimes directly linked to a clear demographic.
"I spent 6 months in Pakistan. Dwarfism was common in some country areas. Mainly because the Koran says to give your first cousin preference in marriage :D (Something which people are beginning to drop)."
It would seem you are seeing the reason why I am against Islam. Not sure why you spent the rest of the comment arguing with me, as we appear to want the same thing (better life for people negatively affected by nonsense.)
The rest of your comment is the whataboustism I already dismissed. Further, Western Governments run amok are not doing it in the name of Christianity - so your claims of a "Christian war on terror" are really complaints about another thing I write about regularly - government corruption.
Haven't heard about the Pope launching any holy wars lately, have you?
Ps - Agreed on Ottoman Empire, in some ways. Islam is at a huge regression point, which is kind of my point. It's barbaric and operating on a year 1500 level. Anything like that in the modern age deserves to be eradicated. Islam is practically at the "witch-burning" level of logic in 2018.
@lexiconical there are a lot more topics & articles you can share. Discussing religion especially you know nothing about personally just copying someone’s words is unethical & unjustified. I suggest you shouldn’t have shared this. If you want to discus Islam study Islamic history, study Islamic khalafat. You need to research & study islam & visor some Islamic scholar & discus your reservations & questions. Above discussion & references are unrealistic biased & taken out of context. If hope you’ll take it positively & refrain from such posts in future. Earn money but don’t hurt someone feelings.
I know a lot about islam. Nothing he writes is untrue. Point to where he is wrong instead of "suggesting" he should shut up. Islam is destroying the west. Do yoy want to look 100.000 young white british girls in the eyes and explain to them that they got raped and tortured for the greater good. For multiculturalism. Look yourself in the mirror.
multiculturalism is main problem none that should have happened. it just creates chaos in the world reason why god kept us apart how to get world peace get rid of this idea multiculturalism is a failed idea, well its more cultural marxism.
The value of diversity is often overstated. It should be embraced when valuable, not forced. If people want to immigrate/emigrate and they bring value to a new location, they should be welcomed, assuming they want to be a part of that culture. Attempting to take over cultures by cultural relocation leads to situations like we see in the UK.
You would really look them in the eye and say you were raped because Islam? Most of those women will tell you having had first hand experience that it is not "because Islam" it is about power as it is in any country, and while they may be coming from countries where they have no respect for women, this is down to culture within the country, not within the religion that happens to exist in that country.
"look 100.000 young white british girls in the eyes and explain to them that they got raped and tortured for the greater good. "
I assume you are talking about the domestic abuse of "white british girls" by their own "white british" male partners ? Domestic abuse is indeed a huge problem mostly for women (though some men are victims too) and obviously not just for white girls but for any race, nationality, religion.
If you are referring to something else, can you provide the referenced research source (not a news report but an actual police research report?
No. Talking about the 100k children raped by mainly muslims. Youre not up to date? Provide police reports for your statement first please.
@scandinavianlife you nothing know about islam nor your BIBLE. ask them your brothers who converting muslims rapidly :)
If everyone jumped off a bridge, does that make it right?
The only reason Islam is spreading so fast is birth rates. Having 8 children pumped out by keeping your women chained to the oven for 30 years does make for a widely-spreading faith.
**Even after eight children, our women enjoy a long healthy life. But 60% of your girls and boys become AIDS patients at the age of 30. This is the fact that your community is. Accept it. You should care about your community. You dont need to criticise on our population, our women, our cultural, our religion. First, You should take care of your youngers. YOUR porn industry destroying you Not Islam destroying you and you are blaming ISLAM. Never write anything bad about ISLAM again. Thanks, **
islam is desteoying the west because of thousands of christians converting into islam day by day :)
you are poor people who have no proper clothes to wear, Read HOLY BIBLE and find out where it written that make porn movies ?? You did not accept you HOLY BOOK and talking about HOLY QURAN. what a totally non sense thoughts you have...
I know you're not looking for an earnest debate, but we probably agree on more than you think.
The West, which is largely atheistic or amoral culturally, is not currently a model that should be followed. I, too, do not believe pornography is good for a culture, particularly the modern, widely accessible kind. It's just not good for human psychology, it makes for unhappy people, regardless of any moral complaints
Don't mistake my criticisms for an endorsement of what is left of Christianity or the West. You might notice the rest of my blog criticizes those pretty frequently.
I think most governments and cultures suck right now. Realism is a drag.
Omg it would be nice to talk with you 2, you are both right in a way. There is a lot more to this than you know. I have been researching it for 6 yrs now and you have to go deeper to find the cause. I think the US and the EU has been sold out and the muslem population is being used think about globalism and the left agenda.
You need 3 things to globalize
A equal living standard for all ( this means some are gonna take a huge hit in their way of life to ensure others are and feel equal )
A one world currency ( think digital and no it wont be BC it will be one they can control and rob from )
A one world religion so the dogma fighting will end.
And a again dumbed down working class that cannot threaten them.
You even don't know Abc of ISlam
I'm sorry that the truth hurts. The statistics are in, and they are conclusive.
You don't know the definition of plagiarism.
What statistics are in? 80% of people in an abuse case are Pakistani?
where is this publicated? Why do the post lack references?
Who created ISIS ? not muslims...
America created ISIS and Al-Qaeda. Stop resisting us. You can't win. We own you. You've never hurt us and you never will.
#murica
Exactly!
zionists
Islam is the most stupid thing in the whole multiverse. If I were Donald Trump or Putin, I would certainly wipe all these motherfuckers out from the face of the earth.
What's the use of those nuclear warheads if they aren't put to test? Just grab some hundreds of them and mix with swine fats, send to Islamic countries for fuck sake.
No more brainless plague to the society worshiping their imaginary friend like an idiot. End of story!
Is this your theses? wounder where the brainless worship is stemming from, you worship trump and putin, and direct hate towards millions of holy men/women, strong case!
Hate breeds hate.... go spread it at facebook
What a fucking joke!
If there's a group of people who were 'somewhat' entitled to the term 'holy' it should be the Tibetan or Buddhist monks, not your stupid rats who don't understand shit.
This is your view ? wounder where the hate comes from... you know many christians live peacefully in Iran side by side with Muslims? There are no calls for unjustified violence in the quran.
What you address is problems with cultures and society, why express your hatred over the millions of ACTUAL holy men and women?
So just because you find Buddhist monks more holy, an Imam can´t be? Argumentation error , Red herring distraction, non consequential information etc etc
Take your petty and small view full of hate to Facebook where you are all equally wise xD
Seriously? Best laughs in months so far! I'm dying for your good sense of humor.
What is your authority over me for having the guts to force me express my views on a fully retarded Facebook? I want to know. You seem too special to demand such. Facebook is only for those psychologically incapacitated butthurts, just like you, who would like to preserve their sensitive pussy. Try some lube next time!
Again non consequential i have claimed no such authority merely suggested a place to find equals.
There are over 200 million Muslim why would not 1% be actual holy in their life style ? Again non consequential.
I feel glad to be able to express understanding towards all living things including you! :) There are nothing strange with your view, hatred towards over 200 million humans due to the actions of a few. That is the judgment of hate and pettiness spread by main steam media, don´t eat it whole :)
Why not comment on all the Christians living peacefully with Muslims in Iraq??? ah rite it conflicts with your hate towards 100´s of millions!
Peace
So you're saying the 1% of Moslems represent the entirety of Islam? Sound argument you have.
And for your information, I have been a member of more than 1,000 Facebook groups which include Christians vs Muslims, Christians vs Atheists, Christians vs Atheists vs Agnostics, Occultism, Mysticism, Magick, Science, Philosophy, Flat Earth, so on and so forth. I have been to a countless battles online, some morons would resort to life threatening when ran out of reason but I don't give a damn fuck. What's your point?
Reason why I no longer hang out on there is because I realized it would be better to move the battleground wherein I get paid for expressing all my point of views. If you're thinking Facebook is the best place to talk about stuff like this nowadays, then you are a clueless sheep on how bigoted the Pussybook internal censorship can be.
I don't rely on mainstream media nor social media to gather information for fuck sake! I was born and grew up in Mindanao you son of a bitch and I witnessed first hand how retarded and how barbaric these stupid Muklo a-k-a Moslems particularly when they were in their home territory. Get your facts straight before defending some really stupid shit!
You conveniently leave out the part where only MUSLIMS COUNT AS HUMAN BEINGS IN ISLAM.
You are wrong here please search freely on islam and its laws and rights.Islam is a peaceful religion, you can read the history of prophet PBUH .Also you can take lectures of Dr Zakir naik in english for more information.You can read abulaala moudui book deneeyat in English for detail .
.If you can not do this, read Quran in english and tell us the points where you feels that Islam only called muslims human beings with example from Quran or hadith.Islam is polite with all human beings and respect all human beings no matter its a muslim or non muslim
read the history of muslim wars and you will find these rules ,
war will be defense , not killing womens ,innocent childrens ,old mens,ban on destroying non muslims worshipping places, ban on cutting trees and poisoning water
Islam is a religion of mercy to all people, both Muslims and non-Muslims. The Prophet was described as being a mercy in the Quran due to the message he brought for humanity:
"And We have not sent you but as a mercy to all the worlds." (Quran 21:107
Islam is a religion of tolerance. It has granted equal rights to the non-Muslims in the Islamic State, but without imposing equal duties on them. The reason is that Islamic State, unlike the modern national State, classifies citizens into two categories according to their religion or faith: Muslims and non-Muslims. Muslims have different kinds of rights and duties than those of the non-Muslims.As the Islamic State is an ideological State, its defence (jihad) is the duty of the Muslims only, while the non-Muslims are exempted from this duty.
Thank you
If that exists as a legitimate Islamic belief then go find that from a viable source (not propaganda nor extremist individual) and post it here. Because this is looking really ignorant now.
Haha and then u people talk about human rights and shit... while demanding to wipe out 2 billion people! HAHA!
Who says I talk about human rights? Stop assuming you faggot. Also please note, blindfolded idiots don't count as humans in my book. Morality is fucking relative, deal with it you dumbass! Now you've just licked my balls.
well, I assumed that because almost 99% of westerners do believe in human rights and freedom and stuff. I appreciate that you are at least honest about rejecting it. But please, if you dont count these people as humans in your book, then dont expect humanity from them when the going gets tough.
Well, it's already been a tough situation here (Mindanao) long before I was born into this freakin' world. Almost five (5) decades of sustained armed conflicts have been the socio-political norm. If Russia or the Pentagon would just drop a couple of warheads into these Moslem infiltrated area, that would be awesome.
So you purposely want to kill women and children for this? dude what is the difference between you and the terrorists...
May I ask you a question, what makes these stupid women and children so important than those dying every day from hunger and diseases, as if they have a significant place in the vastness of the entire immeasurable universe?
If killing all potential terrorists be the solution to end terrorism itself, so be it. I don't give a fuck! Again there is no objective morality no matter how you philosophize everything. The end justifies the means!
Free your fuckin' mind and make it up bruh! You're still stuck in the futile conventional way of thinking.
Good opinion
Whats wrong with offending someone?- Is silence a preferred state in your world?
Sounds about right.
We don't give a rodent's rectum about your feelings mate, why don't you scoot off back to Facebook, maybe tweet your mum? Maybe she cares about your feely feelings, i mean, come on, how old are you, 10 ?
Frankly many people do not like your post, because in it telling or attacking one religion, in Steemit we are not recommended for this. My advice, before you tell about a religion, you need to understand it clearly and correctly. There are other things you do not know, behind this news. please consider!
This post is wrong is so many levels. Full of hate speech and bigotry based on complete ignorance. Author claims to have some facts. But zero was provided. Not a single cited source for verification. Initial premise of the post alone clearly intended to spread bigotry and hatred. I have read the entire post to see maybe there is some credible foundation or "facts" as author states. It became clear author is completely ignorant in the matters and has no interested addressing any real issues. But rather chooses to engage in hatred and bigotry. I am surprised and disappointed to see @smartsteem supporting this nonsense.
Exactly..
Anyone can feel hate from this..
Thanx geekgirl to be so determined..
I am really disheart and speechless to see this post.. I always thought steemit is a social media platfrm having respect and love for others.. But now i am totally disappointed..
Its so wrong to criticize a book even without reading it..
How can you believe informations on internet that they are true.. I cant believe.. Anyone can make and discus true or lie here in his blog..
And how can any obe say that reason behind crime is islam..
Burma iraq syria all burning countries are muslim countries.. Who is behind the game world knows about it..
How can you say even without reading quran that islam is teaching crimes..
Only you can claim anything when you read it analyze it yourself
I live in Israel, a country with a difficult history with its Muslim population to say the least. But I usually, but not always have more problems with fellow Jews. This is probably because I don't antagonize people if I know that they are Muslim. I don't have any close friends who are Muslim because I am concerned about extremist Muslims who might pose as my friend and who might try to hurt me. On the other hand I have far more difficulty with many Jews here who might hurt me directly. In general, I try to respect people the way I want to be respected. That generally seems to work for me. I also don't act "holier than thou" all the time. I am not looking for problems in my life.
I can relate to how you don't antagonize the outgroup while being concerned about danger posed by ingroup members. I'm from another land but I can tell you that I have a similar experience while growing up.
Just sad to read this coming from you @lexiconical.
Summarizing a religion in some numbers related to the acts of extremists is just sad.
And calling Islam and whoever disagrees as "garbage", wow
we Muslims are not terrorist, some people ruin the image of we Muslims and that is painful for us.
The distinction may not matter to you, but I'm not saying all Muslims are terrorists. I'm saying the religion (not the people) is hateful and violent, and it oppresses a great many people (women, gays, those who speak out, non-believers).
Anyone who subscribes to an ideology like that is a bad person in my book, regardless of whether it is a religion, a political theory, or a book club.
I agree here also but to state one without the other is a hard sell ..
If those that call go by the Quran and those that go by the Bible ran their lives to the letter or those books. There would be bloodshed in the billions .
That said it is the ones that are going and living by every letter of the book of their religion. If they do and its their right to they will never fit into a multi religion country. This is where our trouble is, the only way they will fit into a multi religion country would be to take it over.
Unfortunately too many of you are. We are fed up now.
And I'm fed up with your types. We get it. You have a larger amygdala. Get over it!
@steemit-fairy I strongly agree with you. Odds are in every religion & community ruining the image of whole religion & society. But such examples couldn’t be generalised.
Sebelumnya saya ingin memberikanbtanggapan saya kepada @lexiconical atas artikel ini. Dari sisi data yang anda ajukan sebagai pendukung pendapat, maka harus saya katakan anda berhasil mengelabui para steemian yang membaca artikel ini. Tapi patut anda ketahui juga, bahwa data kriminalitas yang anda ajukan tidak memuat secara lengkap alasan-alasan tindak kriminal itu terjadi. Satu-satunya alasan yang anda hadirkan hanyalah sejak Islam Hadir di London, angka kriminalitas meningkat. Hanya itu. Menurut saya ini adalah data paling buruk yang saya jumpai bagi seorang penulis artikel. Hal ini makin membuat anda semakin tidak ilmiah ketika anda memberikan pemahaman kepada pembaca tentang ayat-ayat tematik yang secara umum tidak dapat ditempatkan pada tema islam dalam bermasyarakat. Ayat-ayatnyang saudara ajukan berkaitan dengan sikap untuk sebuah keteguhan dalam beragama, bukan untuk menyerang apalagi membunuh. Kedangkalan saudara memahami ayat-ayat tersebut bisa membuat penganut agama Islam tersulut secara emosi terhadap saudara, lalu nantinya siapa yang harus kita cap sebagai provokator, anda atau muslim ??
Disisi lain, saya hampir sepakat dengan @clausewitz (52) yang menyatakan bahwa agama tidak pernah salah, hanya penganutnya yang salah dan itu bukan karena ajaran tapi karena tingkat pendidikan yang rendah, emosi yang tidak terkontrol, provokasi, kepentingan agar mendapatkan vote dan lain-lain.
Saya kira isu Islam sebagai Agama Kekerasan juga sudah tidak laku lagi saat ini, anda bisa penganut agama lain yang juga melakukan kekerasan di berbagai negara selain Islam. Ajaranya yang salah atau pemahaman penganutnya ?? Jadi stop membawa isu agama dalam dunia steemit ini.
Saya kira sesuai dengan semangat relasi dan persaudaran yang diagungkan oleh #steemit, maka artikel ini bisa termasuk ke dalam kategori artikel provokatif dan menyebabkan perpecahan. Kalau saat ini beberapa steemian sedang gencar untuk mempromosikan steemit dan meninggalakan facebook, maka postingan artikel ini bisa membuat para steemian di dunia Islam menjadi muak dan ini tidak baik secara ekonomi. apalagi pelakunya hanya bawa isu tidak penting tentang agama. Seharusnya ada kebijakan tegas terhadap hal ini.
I'm Indonesian, if you dont understand, please use google translate. This the simple like your post using simple intrepretation.
Terimakasih #steemit. Salam persaudaraan
Astagfirullahaladzim, wahai saudaraku, saya membaca blogpost ini penuh dengan kemarahan kerana telah mengutuk Islam dengan sewenang-wenangnya. Sebagai seorang Muslimin, apa yang diterjemahkan dari Bahasa Arab ke Ingerris di dalam Quran itu adalah tidak lengkap. Saya begitu kecewa Islam dikutuk dengan hebatnya di Steemit. Saya berdoa kepada Allah S.W.T negara khilafah akan ditegakkan. Allahuallam sekalian.
Begitulah yang terjadi...hanya demi kepentingan vote dan materi, agama jadi barang dagangan para pembenci agama.
We are not terrorist.Islam is the religion of peace.Islam is the complete code of life.You have to know about of Islam.It can help you proper direction.Do u know, Islam is the only religion who has a complete direction of your life.You should have to read Al Quran.In the Holy Quran said about of Islam-
“O You who believe! Enter absolutely into peace (Islam). Do not follow in the footsteps of satan. He is an outright enemy to you.” (Holy Quran: 2, 208)
“Fight for the cause of God, those who fight you, but do not transgress, for God does not love the transgressors.”
”And feed with food the needy wretch, the orphan and the prisoner, for love of Him (saying) : We feed you, for the sake of Allah only. We wish for no reward nor thanks from you..”