Moving to hive
Fuck you Justin, we're moving to Hive.
9 years ago in #steem by berniesanders (77)
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Moving to hive
Fuck you Justin, we're moving to Hive.
I tried to speak up but, but I was flagged to shit and received a shit ton of threats and harassment messages. I was contacted by someone I know telling me some whales a getting together and are going to flag me and my @buildawhale users to shit.
I realized no one really cared and just said fuck it. No sense taking the brunt of all the attacks if no one will do anything.
Was recently updated by these whales
My response
And this is where the real dick move lies - threatening you is one thing. But threatening your customers - is on a whole 'nother level - far down the wasteline.
If the whole stake holding community decide to not protect @buildawhale customers either they're not worth protecting or the system is completely broken.
I vote for the former.
He is one of the worst abusers of the platform. That's why he is getting so upset and threatening. Instead of helping fix the haejin issue. He continues to upvote his comments and his alts comments.
Feedback on my proposed partial solution to this issue is welcomed - generosity rank / 'vote spread' algorithm.
Already been done with Steemfollower. It doesn't seem to be catching on, because nobody wants to change anything around here.
@themarkymark this is so old already. No ill will to you. No more flags.
I ask everyone to settle down with the bad actions. So counter productive.
I'm focusing on a new role and retiring on crypto. May your steem account grow as you do!
It's not old bro... grumpydick is still attacking honest people here for nothing. My bot was just threatened by him this morning. He's backed by no one, just throwing weight around.
Who da fook is dat guy @haejin?
this is funn
Fook Flood Mayweather!
this is under appreciated
Lmao we've moved the figure to 7% now?
His content is not garbage, it's some of the best content on steem. Miles ahead of anything you, grumpycat or the shit whale has ever posted.
I estimated it to be around 7% when he is not flagging and his VP has recovered. He is somewhere between 4-5% right now and was 5% yesterday.
7%+ is what I predicted originally before all the flagging and optimized voting.
"At the moment, everything is off the radar." LOL. I am glad that their threats are not silencing you.
That is my answer!
Small time capitalists angry with the larger capitalists for being more successful at cheating/stealing via bots than they are at stealing/cheating using bots.
Would not expect any less from anything created in this society. Small number of greedy assholes try to steal from everyone else. That's capitalism in a nutshell. You are giving your money away to these people by dumping money into a system you know someone is going to leverage to your detriment. Stop investing and just use the place as a blog/youtube replacement and the whales only have themselves to steal from. People are willingly investing in a bot managed pyramid scheme...
well we will have one more dictator in a few months of time, I'm wondering why @abit and the other whales that were running the whales no vote experiment haven't banded up again, although it would be like a state police in some cases I don't see a problem moderating someone that doesn't know moderation and is ok with being top 1 spammer of the year
I really don’t like that SteemIt is forming authoritarian gangs of sorts...
I've voted you (@themarkymark) for witness after reading this post, if you know more witnesses that worth to vote for i would appreciate some suggestions, steemit seems to me a very interesting proyect that i think worth to defend.
Omg I’m so lost in the drama what the hell is happening? Plz some explain from the beginning
I'm doing steem just for fun and to kill time. sooooo..
This is what he has "pending". That is for 7 days. Do the math. Whether his content is good or not, it is simply too much.
Flag that rubbish.
This is a result of people continuing to vote for his posts. Stop! Vote for someone else and the problem goes away.
This guy is making almost as much as a CEO of a corporation would.. Just crazy
nobody can make that much through their own labor
Oh my fucking goat! I do hope a nuclear collision between the US and NoKor will set off soon for the good of humanity--eliminating greedy, profit-maniac assholes! Human beings are just a cancer to the society!
People are making money off of steem?! Oh the humanity!
Wow ! & I still wait to see my post to get just the decimal part 😬😬😹😹😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
Hey @haejin help some minnows with one weeks payout 😬😬😁😁
You're very correct...... Its way too much
Wow really ? I want all those sbd to fix my life
Those SBD can fix a third-world economy!
Wow that's crazy... I'd say he will be rich enough soon to not even need Steemit anymore.
he doesnt need it now he's just here to be a dick
Even if the guy invented the freakin Bible in 7 days, it would not be worth 28,822 SBD. This really feels like some giant ponzi scheme (at best it is crony capitalism).
Your Voting Power goes down if you hammer it too much. We should also have Posting Power to assist with reward volume.
There’s so many users making way too much for what they’re putting out! Honestly, most Steem users fall into this category.
hi
Here is a small spammy account for your flagging practice.
We really need to do something against 100k $ a week rewards for posts that are pretty much a gamble and in worst case scenario are taking advantage of the readers that follow the trades.
It's actually only one SUPER Whale that gives Haejin's post most of its value. I was a supporter of Haejin because I use to think he cared about the analysis that he put out. Now it just looks like a game to see how much money he can get from his post. Just my own personal opinion.
And psychologically, people are more likely to take highly upvoted posts seriously, and upvote them too.
i agree. posting to buy alts with BTC about to tank is a joke. and some of the coins are beyond terrible with no updated news, bad teams, etc. but people vote and he makes a killing. I think he means well, and his TA is good, but TA isn't the end all for crypto, research is.
I think people think he is some oracle because most of the coins he suggested went up, well the whole market went up. You could have picked any coin and you would have a good chance to double your money in december. Heck my brother would occasionally take my advice and does pretty much no research was 4x in december.
my biggest gripe is there are other people posting better information in his replies yet no one gets upvoted. he should be reading the comments and helping those that help him be in the position he is at.
he does good analysis, but apparently greed has taken over.
He never ever comments or answers questions to his own posts while he also leaves out the most important part of his predications, how he determines the targets.
Haejin was getting 3000+ views and 250+ votes before ranchorelaxo ever voted for him. If you want a lot of votes and attention from whales, try to do what haejin does. Provide quality content that your fans want to see, bring fans in from other platforms, get your fans to purchase sp to support you.
what about posts with only a happy new year or a photo or those girls who just pose at a beach and generate 1000z of $$$? atleast he gives some info on cryptos.
Christ, if I see another crypto post in the top 3 posts, I'll freak.
TA is rubbish, so yes he is misleading his audience.
@acidyo so why voting for this kind of post. I don't understand
@acidyo, ok man but what?! Let's say we all downvote @haejin for reaping to much rewards. He can just easily transfer the SP that is upvoting him to another account and do his trick elsewhere, or if he's smart 25 different accounts.
In my opinion a downvoting campaign will accomplish nothing. What will? Healthy competition and hard-working mentality. Elliot Wave analysis regarding cryptocurrencies, which is an extremely popular topic on Steemit, is a monopoly market now because it's new. It's owned by Haejin, the first-mover. This is not sustainable as there is no entry barrier for competitors. Anyone can start up business next door. That brings me to my closing remark:
I thought we liked that about this system, the only power on this platform is Steem Power..? Just become popular or buy a lot of SP if you want to influence the reward pool according to your own standards....
You don't have to downvote anyone.
The reward pool is fixed and is shared out in proportion. So upvoting someone else is equivalent in value to downvoting haejin in terms of percentages.
The real problem is that the rest of the community isn't upvoting enough. They could easily counter the whales by going on voting sprees and voting for deserving articles (the articles the whales vote for then get less of a reward percentage).
If you want to stop abuse the most efficient way is to go out on a voting spree and the more people who do this, the more effective it will be.
Elliot waves are far from infallible. If his chart analysis was that good he wouldn’t need to be taking anything from the reward pool.
most people are stupid and they see kaboom 400% and think he is a god. Meanwhile there were other people in there that do zero TA but had 1200% because they just do some simple research and were in early.
you will never get rid of him until the market becomes much harder to make money. his TA looks great because people are making money picking the coins he suggests. what they dont realize is the entire market exploded and you could have picked anything and drew a yeti on the chart and you would have made money
I think you're right, @steemitromney. He's winning right now because he doesn't have competition. If his work truly is garbage (I don't know anything about Elliot Wave analysis, so I can't tell), then what needs to happen is that there need to be a few accounts that regularly debunk his work, or if it works. At least that's in theory what would level out the playing field. But I'm convinced that a good majority of the upvotes are coming from low-level bots that he's controlling. He's moneyballing the system. We'd need someone to do a network analysis of the voting activity towards his account to gain some certainty on that though.
I learned and am still learning Elliot Wave analysis from Haejin, and I post my scribblings at my blog here. Your welcome to follow and upvote mine analytics :)
I'd prefer to call it the Idiot Wave.
The guy is practically raping the reward system with extreme greed and we all are just looking ..only Bernie is fighting this war ...where are the witnesses...I am not against him making 1K daily but let it be one good post, max 2 daily...One is even enough for him because he crowds all the tags and no space for others to even shine..this is not good for the ecosystem-especially posts based on speculations. Thanks for posting this Bernie, hope all see this post and someone do something...10x posts daily!!! damn...
Steemit Inc , please do a daily post limit!!! 1 post a day will be great...2 max however if we reach 1M + members then 1 post max a day will reduce this type of greed.
There was a time when 4 posts/day was the max before a diminishing returns algorithm kicked in. last I knew, Golos still uses this system, but are planning a fork to add the current Steemit code, and while I like the single 7-day payout window, I don't care for the spammer reward system.
It's beyond just making more money than you're worth. He's taking part in something that respectable news outlets disallow for a reason. Using a follower base to influence the price of a low cap asset. It is his followers fault if they get burned to an extent, but it doesn't make it okay.
I don't agree with post limits , we can deal with this in a different way .
i honestly don't mind it but can we put all of em in one post instead of multiple haha
Yeah, that's basically it. There's just too many posts in one day with info that could very well be put in one post. I don't mind the info/speculation perse, just that it's in so many posts as to milk for the most possible rewards.
Kind of makes you start missing those days of max 3-4 posts a day!
I can see your point , just hope it doesn't lead to post limits because I post about different topics daily & sometimes post more than other days.
I believe you should create a system to compensate small users that find situations like that......I detected some....how will I denounce it? I will make enemies....will the system compensate me if I denounce? that is the point
-18?
How the fuck is that even possible, who did you piss off?
I know there was a whale war but I thought it was sorted out.
Maybe it's about time to create a community council specially designated to address this type of abuse? I believe the US electoral voting system will be the perfect model for electing a decentralize authority.
Are u serious? 2 of the last 3 presidents were put in office by the electoral college who went against the results of the popular vote for the other candidate. That system can be corrupted too.
@berniesanders @acidyo The solution is you need more whales downvoting - like @adm and such.
Minnows are worried about losing their tiny incomes.
Thus.. More whales like bernie need to grow some balls! Otherwise haejin may as well ramp up the 12 posts per day. The longer this is left untouched the stronger they become.
Then who can defend the reward pool rape?
Need to nip this in the bud sooner before it's too late.
@adm, @steemcleaners, @steem, @steemit -- you seriously should do your part and respond accordingly the soonest possible time before it's too late -- else this whole community will be owned and dominated by a single person. Act now or cry later!
Why @haejin has to post almost every hour? Why are they keep on upvoting? Should we listen to the warnings of @berniesanders and @acidyo? Or else...we could all loose.
its not about the time frame, if he produces a quality post he should get paid for it. the problem is sheep following a guy who provides (most of the time) good TA making a killing for drawing a cup and handle based on something someone else suggested and him doing know research. You shouldnt blame him for it, the problem is his followers
@acidyo if you really think that it is worth your time and effort to "do something against 100k a week rewards" then I honestly do wish you well in your task. Totally serious. I am starting to wonder about the amounts he is receiving and if it is any of MY business. Because small or not I upvote and resteem most of his posts! But I ponder if perhaps in making your own rewards you would forget about @haejin and his totally evil plot. Or what ever wrong he continues to reek upon the landscape of steem. No one has ever explained WHY it is so bad what haejin is doing and WHO he is hurting.
Until some bounty was placed upon him, and a war call cried out, haejin was a nobody! Now he is a somebody. How big is his body count before war was brought to him? None. Best to leave it alone.
That, and people flooding the site by re-posting content from other web sources to get upvotes. There should be some differentiation between copy and past postings and original content.
There is it's called @originalworks
It would be really great if he could post it in one or two posts a day.. this is too much.. but im sad there are no rules against this kind of problem..
Agree... And what about these other Steemians who take a LOT of money from the reward pool every single day with mediocre to bad posts? The circle jerk groups? Something is really broken in Steemit and we have to find a solution for it to prevent this community to fall apart at some point in time, and Steem value to suffer from it. Soon, Steemit will have competition, and the monopoly is gone!
Problem is ego and greed for money. @haejin flagged fundraiser for me from 50$ to 0$. Who flag fundraiser? Only moron!
Link about it
Can anybody name those circlejerk groups by name???
I noticed quite a lot!
Too many!!!
Indeed. In the wise words of John Templeton, "don't confuse brains with a bull market."
check this out.
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@rifat/bitcoin
We used to have a solution for this, it was the four post limit.
in my opinion, it should be set up so that the net effect of user A voting on User B's posts, diminishes with each subsequent vote within a reasonable period of time (ie, a week, or a month, etc). That should apply whether up or down. 1 user should not be able to completely "make or break" another user.
If i vote for you, with my voting power, you'll get about 0.07. If i vote for you again within a day or so that reward should then be 0.035. after that, 0.0175, and so on. The same thing should happen when I vote for myself. Votes should be encouraged to be applied to others throughout the community, and not concentrated between few people.
I've argued for this concept as well, which you can find implemented in many games. "Diminishing Returns" is the concept, where each subsequent related action is less impactful than the last. Many others raised objections to the complex nature of how it would have to be implemented, but it would definitely reduce the impact one person should have over another.
The same effect could be applied to both up and down votes.
That's a pretty good idea. I suggested something similar in the past.
I've mention this several times but no one ever listens
The post limit constraint should be applied again, specifically in regards to the number of posts that one can author and seek rewards for in a given time period. Any posts made afterwards could automatically default to "Decline Payout." In this manner, community engagement for the sake of engagement would be fostered, while still rewarding quality content.
Unfortunately the "Money Talks" slogan doesn't really convey this. Steemit has a marketing problem and it is tarnishing the public's perception of the steem blockchain. This is what ultimately needs to be addressed if steem is ever going to grow and sustain value.
The four post limit used to work "behind the scenes". You could post as much as you want, but when you have more then four per day, a penalty would get applied to your post rewards.
The penalty wasn't even really that bad for 5 or 6 posts.
It was an elegant system and it worked just fine for many months. It was removed without any real discussion or reason behind it.
I would reduce it to 1.
Yeah, maybe 1 post and also some limit on comments.
One seems a bit much. We had the four post limit for a pretty long time, and it worked perfectly. I really don't understand why it was removed.
I think we should use up our posting power similar to the way we use up our voting power. It might also keep down the number of "Great Post" spam comments. People could be more motivated to contribute to discussions that interest them.
Wouldn't stop it, they'd just use multiple accounts.
You know, this isn't some crazy idea that I just made up. We had this, it was fine, it was good and it worked. Did people make multiple accounts to get around the four post limit in the past? Generally speaking, no.
With the n2 to discourage self voting?
Or at least a sigmoid curve?
Exactly!!!!!
Thats some aggressive posting!
Wadda pile of ever growing hemispherical neglect & hemispherical blindness we have to witness everyday!! Shessh!! 😈
LOL!
LOL
wtf o.O
Exactlly @newlive Is it me or is this a big "shit on capitalism" post? I mean, I don't think a capitalistic model is the best for producing quality content anyway. Look at the reduction in quality of manufactured goods over the last 5 decades. You can thank capitalism for that. But yeah, greed is a motivating factor for sure. LOL!
"Lol" getting $52.92
lol when i clicked on this post, my computer crashed. Must be telling me something
you are right. clickbait and upvote bot. sad!
Well, Bernie has a point, TA is rubbish!
I flagged all of @haejin 's posts for the last 7 days.... if whales follow through, then steem will be a better place, meaning higher price of STEEM.
@lasseehlers and you earned how much?
IRS!
LOL
How is BCC trevon?
Right now you can make ~50% profit by buying BCC in a matter of a very short time, the site just came back up.
Who cares what another user is doing?
Why the envy? Focus on that which you can control.. Make better content, interact with the community, buy Steem on the dips, and vote for your own content if you want - you will make money...
How the heck did you get over 7,700 steem? Did you buy it all?
Feedback on my proposed partial solution to this issue is welcomed - generosity rank / 'vote spread' algorithm.