RE: Is This Empowerment, Or Objectification?
Actually, the patterns objectifying or subjectifying (based on the author's statements about consent) shouldn't be taken as immutable facts as depending on personality, social situation, norm modification, ect, the individual would likely have a shifting perspective on whether they are being objectified or subjectified, so it follows that you may be able to come with an statistical norm for that individual, but you could not find concrete (once and for all time) label for any segment of the population or an individual whose life is in any flux--whether that be socially, personally, or financially. It would be interesting if a study could be done and hammer out the details and get some better data on sexism (both from men and women), personality, social situation, social norms, personal conduct, ect, effect a persons perception of how they are or are not being objectified, or subjectified (though that last term needs some refining AFAICS).
While I agree, I would like to reiterate that both I and @sean-king express in our articles these are personal thoughts and insights. I did not provide any statistics or studies as this is a response motivated by my experience as a woman and how I have observed sexual objectification and gender discrimination.
A greater point is how any experience is objective, so any observation that hinges its truths on subjective observation is bound to be wrong--though truthful to the one making the observation (we believe what we believe but we don't know why we believe it--primal programming engendered by language systems battling for the next data stack to incorporate itself into the psyche)--tried to say all I mean in that statement as we start paying for posts [and editing] after 4 in specified window--I think it's 24 hours, but there are 6 hour intervals that diminish the fee greatly--IIRC.
On the contrary, experiences are subjective. When we are influenced by our feelings and opinions, we are being subjective. That does not mean it is inherently wrong, however. If you take a look objectively we can still see that gender roles and discrimination is something deeply instilled in society-- regardless of my subjective responses.
I would like to also point out that I never stated that I am accounting for the entire female population. This is a female motivated response to a man's opinions on female oppression.
He, nor I, can make concrete statements. We are merely forming out own, subjective opinions.
Not on the contrary, that was exactly what I was pointing out--though I'd go further and say any opinions not grounded with some objective test (such as the algorithm creating a statistical norm) are pointless unless you are trying to out will an opponent in the Judaic God sense of might makes right--most western thought is platonic, so this line of reasoning usually leads no where and some scientific inquiry is needed to make any actionable change within the system. Hope, you follow what I'm saying, as I think you prior statements agree to the subjective versus objective point, though you may feel opinion finding a more useful exercise than I do. I'm very rational, so evidence and results are my bread and butter, preferably served on white bread and without much thought to what it taste like (that was a joke, I think).