RE: The Heck is going on with Steem?
Absolutely agree, bid bots are the worst part about steemit right now, but how do we get rid of them. The separate flag power is not a bad idea, but we might see some massive flag wars if that happened. Who knows though, maybe it would work out.
There are only a few things keeping steemit from taking off:
- Difficulty gaining traction for newbies - usually persistent people do well if their content is solid though, I just think people are lazy or don't have a lot of time
- Bid bots
- Poor navigational abilities - no ability to sort posts by date or app used like zappl steepshot, etc, no ability to remove or sort out resteems from certain users, etc.
- Repeat posts - everyone talks about the same damn crypto news, it's really annoying
Other than that I feel like the experience is really great and natural feeling.
The trending page sucks, and I feel like very few people who have been here more than a month use it, but when new people show up and see what terrible posts are making money it's a bad look. We need some whales to step up until we have new solutions. If you've got over a million dollars worth of steem do you really need to keep stacking? If anything the value steem gains from being amazing after we work through this BS will be more than worth it.
The bid bot dilemma continues to baffle me, there has to be a good solution, I think this is the main thing that needs to be worked on right now
Fortunately the issues you've mentioned are on the front-end Steemit level, not the Steem blockchain level. This means that even if Steemit doesn't fix these issues, the blockchain will live on and another Steem front-end service with a different curation model could take over.
Excellent point, but it also means steemit, if it stays in tact, will remain abuse-able on some level. People could still use this front end to vote themselves with voting bots. At least it seems that way, maybe it wouldn't be enough if everyone moved to a new front end.
Steemit is just a website, a door for the blockchain; it has nothing to do with the issues mentioned above. Steemit could disappear over-night, and the issues would remain the same, people can still access the blockchain through @busy.org or one of the other countless apps.
Steemit has no issue and nor Steem, from a technical point of view, the issues are at the level of the community and how they decide to act on the blockchain.
Yes, ultimately the problem are pesky humans ! :-)
Precisely what the followers of Marx and lening have discovered in their quest to build Communism, the workers' paradise !
They've discovered that humans are cheating weasels who, if an avenue for abuse is left open, will use it to perform abuse !
They discovered that humans do not in any reliable way "give according to their ability and take according to their needs" but rather tend to "give as little as they can get away with and take as much as they can get away with".
"Sad but true" (c) Metallica 1991
Could a new front end use different rules? I know steemit is close to rule free, but I'm guessing(not sure) some other front end could either introduce something to beat out bid bots or ban them(which would mean centralization in some form...)
Interesting, but isn't that just because Steemit encourages such behaviour because Capital is still privately owned?
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I am not sure, to be honest, I think that having a separate VP for flagging would not create that much chaos. Like with guns, people are not murdering each other every day because they can, they just keep the guns for self-protection. It would be interesting to see more flagging.
I think out of the problems you mentioned; the biggest one is the lack of support for newbies. I used to say that anybody should work for six months until they can complain but that's not enough. I know plenty of quality and persistent people that are still not earning much, and it's damn sad. Nobody wants to work for free for a huge period, once this issue is fixed, Steem is ready for mass adaption.
This is an interesting post that brings many good points, as @heimindanger said, whales should try to tighten the belts of the bot users, obligating the bots to change.
Ya, I just read that post, really cool idea, and if the flagging vp was introduced it would destroy bid bot abuse, I wonder how it would affect total payouts. Either way we need to try some things out during beta, I think the flag VP is a great idea for testing, I feel most users are honest and would downvote crap while leaving the good stuff intact. Some of these posts making bank are ridiculously worthless
Thanks for takin time and writing this we need more people like you working to make this place functioning
No problem, I really want this place to turn out great, there are a few things I dislike, but overall I see this type of platform as the future. What would really be amazing is a partnership with Medium, which might need a write-up to brainstorm the possibilities...
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