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RE: SAVE THE REWARDS POOL! Let's Talk About FLAGGING POSTS! You ALL Should Do It More Often. It Is Your Civic Duty.

in #steemit7 years ago

I do not agree with points 3 and 4. Steem (above all) is a platform for free speech. There is no free speech without the so-called "hate speech".

Also, I'd like to mention that you shouldn't flag all posts that don't share your viewpoint or posts that you simply don't like. Don't overuse the feature, only use it when it is blatant shit.

I would also like to mention that upvoting your own comments isn't a reason to flag. Yes, there is a debate of whether it is correct or not to upvote your own stuff, but while the possibility is present, use it. Just don't spam pointless comments that don't bring any progress to a conversation only to upvote it and earn a miserable 0.01 SBD.

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Point 3 is practically synonymous with 5 I guess you could say. Again, this is just a way to combat bullies, etc. Should bullies be rewarded? No. It isn't censorship, it's just saying that they don't deserve to be paid for sucking.

I'm not saying they shouldn't be able to say it, I'm saying that it's a good idea to remove rewards for hateful things. That's like saying it wouldn't have been cool to tell Hitler to shut up, you know? He can talk about killing Jews all day, but it's up to society to reply to him with "you suck, shut up, dude."

I see upvoting your own comments as fine, but is moderation and with respect. For example if you have a point you think that is well laid out/said, and you want exposure in a long line of comments, sure upvote yourself a bit to bring your comment up in the ranks. I also think it's a-ok to 100% upvote your original posts. I also think it's cool to use comment upvoting in the event that you have been wrongly flagged.

Thanks for the input!

Firstly, #HitlerDidNothingWrong. Secondly, no. Even if you think someone is "bullying" (there's no such thing as cyber-bullying), that doesn't mean that person shouldn't be rewarded for his/her thoughts. The last thing we want to see is Anti-Fascist bots flagging posts of people who have a slightly right-leaning view.

Also, I do agree that any death threats or any speech that falls under international law should be flagged, but minor things such as "You never had a giveaway, you're a fucking Jew" shouldn't be flagged as it is just a comical comment that shouldn't be taken seriously, and yes, the person deserves payment as he/she criticized someone's behaviour. Criticizing is free speech, doesn't matter if someone thinks you're a filthy Jew. Maybe you are. How should we know?

Point of interest: I'm not a fascist, that hashtag is just a 4chan joke. Free speech though, so bite it!

You really believe that, though? Picking at people for no reason and attacking their character from an unprovoked position repeatedly isn't bullying? Bullying is defined by "prone to or characterized by overbearing mistreatment and domination of others." I see what I've described to as bullying. Do I think that people need to toughen up and just deal with people like that by not giving them attention? Yes, I do. But do I think that people taking that approach to interactions with other human beings? Definitely not.

So if you have a nice quality post, for example, giving someone a lesson in coding and I just drop by to say "fuck you lol you are a dumb piece of shit," and I upvote myself, I shouldn't flag you? That is my freedom to do so. Flagging is a mechanism to agree with rewards. I will flag anyone that is detrimental to a community.

I fully get what you're saying about using race and so on in a friendly, harmless manner as humor is fine as well. I'm talking legitimate call for violence or something, true hate speech. Or for example if someone was like "Kill all gay people, here's why, etc etc etc," to me that's hate speech and fuck rewarding that, you know?

I feel ya! I have a dark sense of humor a lot of times that I think that people would probably hate, but to me, satire is golden and a fantastic way to laugh at stupid ideologies.

You are free to believe whatever you want to believe. I am free to believe whatever I want to believe.

The "Kill all gay people" one is fine in my opinion. The person is showing his/her perspective, we should listen to it, even if we largely disagree with it.

Here's my scenario for flagging a user:

Let's imagine a post titled "My Grandmother Died, Here's Her Story".

There's nothing gay about the post.

@skankhunt comments "Ur gay"

That's completely unrelated to the post, it is getting flagged.

This is an example of my point #3.