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RE: Steemit: A Social Platform Or A Bot Gaming System?

in #steemit7 years ago

Okay, so for a while there, I was thinking you were ready to succumb to the bots, which was very unrallier like. :)

This post has only been up for seven minutes, but it's rare that I get in first on any post, let alone yours, so here goes:

I hope you get a response from many of the witnesses, including the bot owners.

My opinion is, you and me and everyone else who believes in this STEEM ecosystem and community, should stay the course. We should hold the line and keep holding the line.

The only way this place improves is if we're able to gather enough people to our side to make a difference. We don't need everyone, we don't even need a majority. All we need is 5-10% of the active users on the platform who have been around a while, 2-6 months or so, and who are willing to stand toe to toe and hand in hand against the tide.

People stop using the bots, revenue goes down, regardless of the STEEM price.

People ignore the trending page, the bot users get their 15 seconds of fame and their fat bot bill.

People continue to engage through posting, commenting and human curation, the number of garbage posts will go down and the amount of the rewards will go up.

The course is true. The course is life. The course is the way.

Stay the course. Hold the line.

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haha I had you worried huh? lol

I agree (as usual) with most everything you say Glenn. I think it is a matter of "holding the line" as well... I am with you and will stay the course for sure! And I agree that over time we can be a part of something special! :)

ps... yes you were fast! I held off commenting to give everyone time to state their opinions and others to read everyone's thoughts... but I saw your comment quickly and was happy to see you and I still think alike on this one! ;)

I think someone actually beat me in but I was the only one here when I was writing my comment. It just took longer to finish. :)

I think you and others are already a part of some grand and purposeful. It's just keeping that going and expanding it. Between what you're doing with the newbies and what Asher is doing with his leagues, and what others are doing, Steemit will be righted. Hopefully, we'll all be around to see that, too, since it's a long haul uphill battle. :)

I knew you were first lol...

And I agree with you that we are actually a relatively small group but making great progress in networking with each other. Its really not about the groups themselves, its the connections and friendships we are making.

ie my friends and your friends are each others' friends one day as we work together and build that trust and respect necessary to really have impact. I see many of the same people every day and the cool thing is we have expanded the group by being inclusive to all.. This place is much smaller than people realize (in terms of true engagement!)

Absolutely, @glenalbrethsen. Count me in.

Those bots undermine Steemit's potential to do that rare thing - inspire and drive social impact for millions while creating financial value for all involved at the same time.

Enough of us holding the course, and change will happen.

I'm wondering, if it would be a good idea to have this as a quasi-community of some sort?

It might be a good idea. That community might already exist for all I know. I wouldn't be surprised.

Sad thing about the bots is, many of them were created to help people as a workaround. So the intention was good, just not the solution.

And since the solution is based on a long term outlook, we need to continually remind ourselves and others, that's what it is. Long term. It's not a quick solve.

bowing to way above me at 3rd place @glenalbrethsen

  • OK now I can reply...
    • Trending page
      Do people still look at that???
      I check it about once a day to see if there is any real steemit news.

I'm afraid the new folks do, and since there's an ongoing supply of them on a minute by minute basis, and as far as I know, no immediate redirection to anything else, that's where they end up, because that's where people go to look for things everywhere else.

Then, when they get there and see what's there, if they don't immediately equate it to trash, they think that's what passes for good content around here. So, the cycle continues to perpetuate until someone can get a hold of them that's not just inclined to flag them into oblivion because they didn't bother to read the Steemit FAQ or etiquette pages.

I know there are greeter guilds and such working to orient people, so I'm certainly not knocking them. I don't know enough to know what they're doing, but I'm sure they've got more than enough to handle, especially if they're trying to doing anything else on their own accounts.

True. True indeed.

  • I did when I started. I had no clue what I was doing. I would also upvote anything that had a huge payout, thinking, man if I get a cut of that... woohoo... SMH ::rolling eyes::
    • Then I started searching for guides and such and those were a great help!
      • I think maybe it was @earthnation's guide that explained the most to me...
  • In a time, long, long, long ago... (I'm on day 60) haha

BTW you do realize you get a bonus for for spelling out the emojis right?
::rolling eyes:: = 2 words
not sure if they even count 🙄 as a word
wait wait unread that part... you already have beat me 5 times better! haha

Actually, spelling them out might count, because Asher isn't counting words, he's counting characters, which could include (this I'm not sure of) spaces, returns, emojis (or their alphanumerics), punctuation and formatting styles, like bullets.

Don't quote me on that. It really depends on how that all gets filtered, but a character is a different animal than a word.

Aha! yes, I see that now...

haha... yes he is above me too! And I see he is picking up steam too :)