RE: Steemit – We Need To Talk
If you were paying attention you would realize that plenty of people are in fact doing a lot about it. Those of us that are have even offered countless times for him too join us in the fight against bot abuse. Proof? Read sneaky ninjas last post.
Two things about the time limit...
First, there are simply not enough people curating good or bad posts for it to make a difference.
Second, as grumpy has hypocritically pointed out, it shouldn't be the communities job. It's the responsibility of the bot owners themselves.
Why make you guys spend countless hours combing our lists when we could simply keep an active and shared blacklist? Thus preventing the community from wasting so much time on something that is our job to clean up.
Had grumpy or anyone else bothered to talk to us, they would have found out that before he started his rampage, we had collectively started working on just that.
If you care to know that is finally very close to becoming reality. I've just picked up a list of over 25k abusive accounts from steemcleaners, added it to my blacklist and passed it to any bot owners willing to use it.
The issue here is that all our hard work goes un noticed unless we post about it. Grumpy crusade actually slowed that down because now the community is in an uproar and I'm now having to defend myself instead of work on the issue.
If you took the time to look you would notice that this point is already nearly mute because our lists of bidders has been cleaned up significantly. This is due to all the work that myself and other owners have been doing behind the scenes that we have not had time, or felt the need to post about.
By not feeling the need to post and/or talk about the abuse, it appeared as though no one cared. I've also been given reason to believe that people that can truly help stop the abuse are not because of future updates that we might get.
You're right, why make us spend countless hours combing through bidders. I've done it. It's tedious. I'd rather do anything else.
I never agreed with his approach. I've asked him to stop the flags and talk about it too. I'm glad you guys are doing something about it.
I still think that the 3.5 day limit is not too much to ask for, but this is just my opinion. I highly doubt it matters, but it is what it is.
I've been watching themarkymark make some pretty extensive digging into blacklisting abusive users. It's not like I haven't been paying attention. I have.
I can see bidbots getting cleaned up a bit. I don't see the abuse or the arguing going away.
I also don't see grumpycat stopping his unjust flags either, so it seems like a lose/lose.
I actually looked at some of your comments after writing that.
I wanted to apologize for taking your one comment out of context when you had clearly made more and were clearly more understanding of the issue than that single comment made me feel at the time.
I think it will go away... for this issue lol.
Who knows what is next lol
As far as 3.5 days I still feel this it's a matter of choice. The choice of the person bidding.
I'm now paying attention to @abusereports, they are showing all votes on day 6. I've vowed to look at any votes coming from my bot on sixth day to determine if they are spamming/scamming or not.
If they are abusive ill be removing their vote, if not then ill let them be. So far there have only been 2. Both ok
We'll find resolve here I know it!
Thanks I really appreciate this! I can see where you took my comment out of context. No harm done!
I've been watching the @abusereports posts myself and don't see a whole lot of activity coming from @sneaky-ninja but I have seen abusers voting early. This really helps them blend in with the crowd. If I run into these users I'll be sure to point them out to you.
All of this brings a lot of attention to the sixth day and it's not the only day that abuser takes place.
I'm sure that it'll get figured out as well, I just don't want more innocent authors getting flagged.
Yea, not much activity there from ninja.
It's good that someone else is noticing my point about abusers just starting earlier.
I will really appreciate you pointing out abusers that you do see using my bot. (not asking you to waste your time looking, but if you do see any I can get rid of them.) So far my blacklist is only the worst abusers, not the copy pasta for example.
I am working on helping some of the innocents that have been flagged also.