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RE: The State of Steem - August Expansion
You can use AnonSteem, which is the 2nd largest account creator on STEEM: https://anon.steem.network
It accepts Bitcoin and Litecoin for those who don't already have a STEEM account to pay for it.
I decided to test-create an account through https://anon.steem.network
Counting all the transaction fees, the cost was 15+EUR and came with 6 STEEM in. I am ok with that and thank you for your service.
Still, it pushes the cost of entry way up when one doesn't want to give any personal information in the process.
And suddenly signing up for Steemit is not free anymore. I'd pay the fee but a LOT of people will NOT. That is a negative. The positive would be to FIX the Sign up process.
ive had the same experience. My brother has tried 3 times he thinks its a scam now.
It was never free!
you were compensated for your information, and I am guessing that you didn't read what you agreed to...
Signing up for steem WAS NEVER FREE! We've just ben hiding that fact from you children since you can't handle the trith! haha look sory buyt this comment is abouyt to be very harsh and dont get upset its just me getting m,d at your entitled attitude in ur comment,.. its a BLOCKCHAIn please do NOT angry at people for simply having limitations of a blockchain! You ned more education on the subject before making such ignorant comments! THAT is negative!
You can't just "FIX" the FACT that it costs 9 steem to create a new account on this blockchain @mericanhomestead iuts not that simple but if you have an actual solution Id like to hear it! You should stop ur entitled attitude! people work ful time on this shit man come on, so negative ur comment, so unhelpful!
And you can already use steemconnect.com and you can delegate steempower to help people geta new account, theres ways to "Mine" teh steem to create a new accounyt you see? EVentualuy thre will be money set aside to create teh stem
Here is an over simplification, but In the beginning the steem was just steem not money it wasnt worth as much so mining it was easy to do to allow the creation of many accounts, but now that steem is actually money and worth something, we see that as "steem accounts costing money" But we are not going to ever outright charge people to signup for steemit on steemit.com because people dont pay for a youtube or facebook or reddit account.
Yea, I agree that people need to get a bit more educated about #Steem, before just blindly commenting.
There are at least 4 different ways to open a new STEEM account. All these ways differ one from another by anonymity rank (personal information release), #security, and level of computer savvy needed in order to accomplish it.
READ MORE HERE:
https://steemit.com/steem-help/@primus/how-to-register-steem-account-in-4-different-ways-a-complete-comparative-analysis-of-security-and-anonymity
Be aware about Account #Security -- you should read up about creating a truly STRONG Password (don't simply keep the 1 you started with - at least, not if You've much money invested)
steemit account security will become one of my biggest fears when i am a whale
Its why I have my money in steempower! this way a hacker would need to steal my account for a whole week just to get 1/13th of my money! By then account recivery can happen right?
Thansk for the info tho!
Why anonsteem is able to create an account in minutes where as it takes days in Steemit. Are they given some special privilege ? like using some special APIs ?
I understand they charge, but are there two different APIs, one for free and one for charge ?
No, the reason the "free" one is slow is because the people who pay for it haven't yet found an easy way to make sure it isn't abused for spam accounts. The actual time and cost for anyone to create an account are the same.
I don't agree to your statement that "people who pay for it haven't yet found an easy way to make sure it isn't abused for spam accounts", I am sure people pay and create many accounts to gain popularity in the early stage.
The other day a guy was telling me in general chat that most of the people even do not read any post, but some posts end up with high no of upvotes, because they have bought power and use that to make it popular. And I don't see any reason why they can't do it, its a kind of investment they are doing.
What @troglodactyl said is correct: steemit has to pay the blockchain for the accounts that it gives away for free. And it's difficult for them to be sure they don't hand out a lot of free accounts to the same person, they need to verify their identity to avoid that.
So the solution would be hire a person to only do that(verify identities)... or even contract a verify system that can do that automatically such as netVerify for instance. Dont you think that?
And why ned or dan didnt take into consideration that this WILL happen? Another solution might be a way to charge us i dont know like the 1% of our curation or post rewards to help the account creation cost. Personally i think that the new users are the gold rush here and everywhere! Or Coca-Cola is what it is because it have only 300.000 users around the world? I dont think so. It's one of the reasons i have not been writing post yet. Because my followers in the others social platforms wont wait one month or more to get their Accounts approved! And as you may know, take the attention of people on something isn't easy. Once you have their attention, you have to do/give/provide the best, and the best is not have to wait such a long time for sign up.
Take into consideration my 1% fee or something like that for a "pool to pay the fees involucrated into account creation"
There's no payment when I signed up in steem and even my friend the other week. So, people are getting advantage of the situation by asking some payment. It's the same in steemvoter. Lazariko12 and Pavezi are in charge to have you registered under their supervision for auto vote (for them) but they won't bother to follow you or visit your blog after you have been registered. That is negative.
Ok. Why can a Bitcoin accont be free, and a Steem account can't? What is the reason?
because bitcoin i just a wallet
Steemit acount i san account that requirs more than just sending and receving steem
anyone can have a steem wallet u can signup for poloniex or bittrex and havea steem wallet
but a steem account is more than a wallet!
I am pretty sure thats why!
The thing a steemit account can do costs money on our blockchain! if steem was free or worthless like a testnet u could do it all free but they made steem have value now! so your account needs the 9 steem to be created because of the way steemit works!
Its not easy to explain to people , theyll assume it is a major failure of the system
I agree. There should be no cost to join. It is backward thinking.
There is always a cost to get onto the blockchain, since tokens have intrinsic value. Right now, Steemit Inc is bearing all those costs. We're working on solutions, but this has never been done before. We're trailblazing!
Why do you need to spend or burn money when we could burn bandwidth allocation? That seems much more fitting with the Steem Power system.
https://steemit.com/steem/@demotruk/account-creation-should-not-cost-steem-it-should-cost-bandwidth
Rightly said!
same thoughts too. i dont think its time for steem to start charging for signups yet.
I believe they (steemit) are now uplifting the processed for sign ups. They are now approved in less than 2 hours.
damn fuckin straight!
I only joined a few weeks ago mine was approved quick :)
Anyone with a few minutes to spare can make an account for "free". IMO anonsteem is a scam (albeit a smart scam). Accounts cost 6 Steem to create, but if you do so yourself, that Steem is transfered to your new account... so it is free. Anonsteem realized this and charges you 10 Steem to make a nice little profit. I had an easy account creator tool but took it down because I was changing laptops.
You need to pay to join steemit? That ain't gonna work ;)
How much exactly is the fee?
Steemit can only go up towards north.... The future belongs to Steemit...
How can you do it faster when Steemit can't? Or is this a kind of profiting form loopholes?
Via the network, accounts cost a certain amount of STEEM to create.
Steemit doesn't want to give the idea that it costs to join, so they give away the accounts for free, at a cost. This means they put in stringent verification methods that make it slow to get a new account.
When you pay AnonSteem, we have no reason to slow the account creation process, since you're paying us for the account fee.
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