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RE: Steemit We Are An Experiment

in #steemit6 years ago (edited)

Edit: I've thought about what I've written and while I still believe that huge amount of bought upvotes are somewhat irritating for the user to determine if that post has real value - the things I've wrote were too harsh. Let's create on something positive instead of being destructive!


What the actual fuck? Have you taken a look at the github pages from steem(it), busy or utopian? If you would have, then you would have realised that there are a lot of people doing a lot of work to make 'your dream world' come true.

The funny thing is that the lack of actual value in your post and the amount of useless rumble of thoughts without a line isn't what pisses me off about your post.

What pisses me off is: the fact that you bought votes worth over 140$!

You blame steemitinc, busy and all the developers that they're not doing their job (which is not true) - and instead pump your post with an incredible amount of money - which truly has, in my opinion, a value of max. 5$.

How about you start looking at yourself and the post you've written, before you start putting the finger on others..

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Good points! I guess the info about the votes should be presented at the beginning of the post, for more visibility.

A notice like saying

"I have used up-vote bots on this post to increase visibility only and not for any other reason"

Is that what you mean?

Yes, I was thinking that the author should make a notice he plans to use up-vote bots for his post. Also the devs, maybe could make the voting info available on the post preview, before the post is opened, here : image.png

If you see that it is up-voted, promoted or boosted by bots you probably say "not worth reading".

Always don't judge the book by its cover. I always look at the title of the post and if I see it is interesting I read it. I don't really look at the value of the votes made, because it could be upvoted by whales or bots which does not really have anything to do with the value of the post.

Also the devs, maybe could make the voting info available on the post preview, before the post is opened, here :

That could be an update for "steemit more info" by @armandocat

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It's all good mate. I don't really take things to heart over here. We are all different people and we all have different opinions. So things like this I don't really call it fighting, maybe heated up discussions or discussions with a passion.

I still believe that huge amount of bought upvotes are somewhat irritating for the user to determine if that post has real value

Dollar signs (pay out value) don't really have anything to do with the quality of the post or article that is posted because I could be a whale and upvoted myself for 50$ them my other whale friends and relatives who got me on their auto vote will also give me 50$ each. Then there are also these upvote bots.

So yeah in my opinion the posts that are on trending or hot don't mean it is all good quality articles.

Since you touched that subject and you are irritated with it. Maybe you can suggest something to me how to make this tactic of mine better.

Every time I have money for the steemit platform I go and buy steem or sbd at the exchange. I then transfer it to steemit.com.

Now instead of powering up all the steem in one go. I decided to use it to promote or boost my posts using upvote bots. I look at it as hitting 3 birds with one stone.

  1. I am investing in steem (by buying steem at exchange)
  2. I am using it to promote or boost my posts
  3. I am helping out the guys who owns the bots minnowbooster, buildawhale, etc by using their bot

I believe in steem and the future of steemit.com that is why I am investing in it little by little as long as I have money to put in.

So yeah let me know if my way is harmful to the steemit.com and please tell me how. And please don't stop there, suggest something, something I could do better

I understand that. Again - I was too emotional. Should have taken a step back and looked at the situation - you're just trying to get you message out. And it's a flaw in the system that one can manipulate the trending page so much.

Now that I think of the issue with buying votes, should we as a community set up an account that burns all the steem used to buy upvote? Sent sbd could be used to buy Steem and burn. This would benefit the whole ecosystem rather than select few.

Sent sbd could be used to buy Steem and burn. This would benefit the whole ecosystem rather than select few.

Could you please elaborate more on this, I am a bit slow in the steemit ecosystem.

How can burning all the steem used to buy up-votes benefit the ecosystem of the platform?

The overall supply of Steem would diminish, Steem would become more scarce and by doing so raising the value of every Steem in existence.

Essentially what people are doing by buying upvotes to get into trending page is what Steemit Inc should have provided by default, but now we have this promoted tab that no one visits making it useless.

What gives Bitcoin its value is that there will be only 21 million of them, ever. Steem has somewhat high inflation currently so little deflation won't hurt, it would rather pique the interest of investors.

If Steemit Inc isn't willing to fix the promoted feature, maybe we can do it together so everyone benefits. But I'm not sure if there's a way to burn Steem, anyone know if it's possible?

Maybe send the Steem you want to burn to an inactive whale. Wouldn't that be like burning it?

I can be inactive and you send Steem to me, sure :)

I'm sure you get the point. It needs to be 100% certain that the funds are gone. No trust required.

You sir are a savage, and you have warranted a follow from me.

Aww you only like savages? How about me, a gentle, kind hearted soul.

haha - appreciate that!

Thank you for pointing this out. . .funny how you didn't receive a response.

Well, I wrote this in the first place as a statement. He prob. has a good reason why he did it - everbody has their reasons.

Ohh boy! :) Do you use some browser widget to know how much was the vote power of the users?

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