[Steemit Bot Etiquette]The very bots claiming to protect steemit are worse than the ones they are fighting. @cheetah & @randaletouri Weenis Speaks.

in #steemit8 years ago (edited)

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Steemit Bot Etiquette

Hello Its WEENIS. Not the bot but the guy behind weenis bot.

Id just like to take a moment to point out a few bots that are claiming to protect the steemit community, while at the same time using the worst etiquette possible.


Info on the Weenis Bot

First I should point out that weenis never posted in the same thread twice. Not unless the thread caught my attention and I visited it personally to speak with the author myself.

Secondly, the entire time that weenis was running, I was here monitoring it. It was 48 hours (ish) of on and off testing. After all it was testing I was after, not harming. Being here allowed me to monitor the bot at all times and correct any screw ups. I took it very seriously.

Weenis upvoted, posted animated gifs and gave words of encouragement. Thats it. No downvotes, no harming, no chasing specific users. It "could" record those who upvoted weenis and chase specific users however I changed that to watch categories instead.


Example of Bad Bots Imgur

In this example you will see a legit post being commented on multiple times by a bot named @cheetah created by anyx :

https://steemit.com/steemit/@weenis/steemit-the-most-interesting-thing-on-the-net-at-this-moment-bots-bloatsteemit-bloat-test

This guy (or girl) is not monitoring their bot. tsk tsk

In the same example we will see the legit post being downvoted by bot @randaletouri created by @pharesim:

This person has created a downvote bot for blog posts. tsk tsk This person is also not monitoring their bot. tsk tsk again.

Monitoring your Badly Coded Bot

If they were being monitored, those downvotes would have been removed and possibly the comments deleted or fixed to reflect the mistake.

https://steemd.com/@randaletouri

https://steemd.com/@cheetah (Has a ton of bots all voting each other up)


Incidentally it seems I may just have plagiarized from myself though...

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So thats a first....


Conclusion

Weenis was an annoying bot, but again it was never ran without being monitored and it never did anything but upvote and posting encouragement along with an animated gif.

Id like to end with this. Its irresponsible to create a downvote bot especially if you are running it without monitoring it. It is irresponsible to run any bot if you arent there watching it as it bots. Downvote bots should NOT exist no matter the reason.

Your Friend,
WEENIS

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You're telling me I am not monitoring my bot? Did you even open your own link?

I noticed this issue when people make edits. I am fixing it; there should be less instances of this already.

@weenis I know you are using a bot to auto click on the upvote button. How do you do it?

Yes Weenis bot can autoupvote based on just about any parameter set. Its all in the code.

Ive watched it do it over and over. I think you just happen to be online right now and are fixing it.

After all who would let the bot continue to run while fixing code?? Weird.

It posted trash in peoples threads. It was annoying, distracting and disrespectful, and a bot going around and flagging it was doing a public service. You acted like a tool, and got put on a black list. I don't see the problem.

show the trash it posted....

in my particular thread, it posted a note that said "hi sigmajin" with a distracting picture of jack nicholson from the film "the shining". The pic might have even been animated, i don't remember. The point is it was spammy, and the intent was clearly to grab the readers attentino away form the article to which it was a reply.

The net effect of this is 1. it added nothing to the conversation. 2. It was a distraction which made light of whatever it was i was posting about.

Now, im sure its completely random, but (for example) what do you think the effect of a reply like that would be on say, a thread about sexual assault, or some other deeply personal matter? Or even just something that someone put a good amount of work into that they intended to be taken seriously.

I assume that theres a person behind the weenis, and a fairly intelligent person at that. Are you seriously, seriously trying to tell me that you don't see why someone might take exception to your posts? Why someone might interpret them (and ill give you the BOD and assume it was not y our intention) as somewhat disrespectful?

also, it seems like you have bots downvoting all my posts now... good for you

WEENIS!!! CHECK THIS MY FRIEND!!!

So are you still in control of the bot or is weenis now just you and not both? Bot idea... cool ... if u use it for the right reasons I guess.. so I have to ask.. are you? :)

I havent decided yet. Right now its just me.

The bot is just relaxing as I think of new and interesting things to test. To be clear, I am a fan of steemit and not looking to do anything destructive. I think other bots need work though.

Its irresponsible to create a downvote bot especially if you are running it without monitoring it. It is irresponsible to run any bot if you arent there watching it as it bots. Downvote bots should NOT exist no matter the reason.

Agreed, except the last sentence. Downvote bots are a necessity to discourage bots that are spamming indiscriminately. If this is only the beginning, the comments on all posts will soon be filled with a ton of auto-posted crap, and the actual real comments from people will get drowned out in the noise. Short of manual moderation by Steemit (which won't happen), what other tool but a downvote is useful?

You seem like a nice enough dude. But weenis is annoying and it should come as no surprise that he has been getting hammered. If you are experimenting as you say, you should simply consider the response as part of your results... It pissed people off, and they responded in kind. I'm glad that your intentions are good, but some people are more interested in gaming the system for profit, to the detriment of the entire platform. For that reason, downvote bots are absolutely essential.

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