RE: Remembering Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and Tokyo: Statism Manifested as Murder Apologism (why some individuals still view mass murder as morally legitimate)
Collectivism requires extreme nationalism to maintain centralized power. How else to keep the poulation in line with the party message? Propoganda of constant consistent messaging is necessary to legitimize the centralized top down heirarchy we all virtually live under. And it goes beyond just messages. The state promises food through welfare and education, the state promises housing and protection, all the while the state lives to perpetuate itself, disregarding any violation of human rights. The state seeks dependency and loyalty, loyalty comes by covering up their misdeeds. Was it truly necessary, well given that the state itself said so, doesn't make it true. The state has every reason to lie. Maybe they really just wanted to test the bomb on something more than 1 million square miles of desert, isn't it more scientific to bomb an existing urban center? The real truth may be something completely sinister, cold and calculated.
Collectivism does not need contralized power
It also does not need a party.
That is also true for voluntarism, or how will you make people like it without propaganda?
That also is not true. It is a way and often done, but not necessary. You can have loyalty by being honest, too.
Collectivism is centralized power by definition, an yes it is a party or a group. If you are virtuous you won't need propoganda puff pieces to gloat about yourself, misdeeds by collectivist nationalist govt. go hand in hand, we have over 100 years of data now, there's no argumemt.
Collectivism is emphasis on the group.
Nothing for that requires centralized power or a party.
So because betamax was obvious better it won against VHS?
Because the fights against dictators are virtuous they always succeed?
And so on...
How does that work? Collectivism is a governmental philosophy, you have to have a powerful government that taxes everyone into oblivion to fund "collectivism" and it has to keep people in line by telling them good stories about how collectivism "benefits" everyone. Collectivism in the current format of the definition and how it operates today, globally is centralized organization and planning, backed up by a powerful governing body which imposes its will upon people through force and coersion. Truth.
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For easyness, may I quote Wikipedia here?
I admit the english article is not the best one, but nowhere you will found that collectivism needs a state.
For example a cloister is a perfect example for a collectivist society.
Explain how collectivism works without government.
State is not government and government is not state.
Anyway, the volantaryists are first to deliver, I still haven't met even one who can explain even easy things like how to build a road without government or without state, not to mention without both.