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RE: [Interview] All Steem Hard Fork Related Issues Revealed.

in #steem4 years ago

Thank you very much for publishing this interview. It is always good to get factual information from a different point of view.

I wish I had had this information BEFORE the hardfork. For example, spamming and milking annoyed me a lot, but I didn't know that it would affect the stability of the system.
However, some users continue to do both of these things, even depositing minimal amounts of money every second continues, if you look at the wallet of @bittrex for example.
Some of these - long known - "candidates" like @haejin are not affected by the hardfork. Why not?

Should the "troublemakers" have a new hobby, it would be easy for them to continue to disrupt the system with other, even completely new accounts. Do you want to run a new hardfork every time these actions are discovered? Do you have plans to prevent these actions?

Many users are very, very upset because the stake of the affected users is also affected and has been transferred to the account @comminity321. I am disappointed that the stake is not mentioned at all in this interview.
Without wanting to judge morally or legally about each "side" here to preserve the factual character of this text, I would like to point out that there is a difference between "not getting an airdrop" and "taking an existing stake", so I can understand the excitement (not the unobjective, vulgar condemnations).
Can you say what should happen to the stakes or what you had planned to do with them?

At the time of the interview, it was probably impossible to see that an anonymous user - celebrated as a hero on the Hive - would transfer the stakes to Bittrex. Can you get back the amounts and what will happen to them?

Furthermore I would like to know why the author of this text (someone who has held Steem since 2017) remains anonymous. For forming an own opinion at least his nick would be very important, because under the circumstances interested people could also follow his "story" on the Steem.

Every piece of the puzzle is important, so thanks again for supplying some more pieces. I would be very happy if my open questions were answered.
Many thanks in advance,

Chriddi

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Thank you for your assessment, although it is based on some conjecture. Because I'm so tired of those, I'm still waiting for an "official" statement.

I think that this story is far from over actually.

I'm afraid I think so too. And I hope very much to be able to protect myself from the fact that normal users are drawn deeper and deeper into this "war" by the terrible communication culture alone. All this negative energy prevents me at the moment from looking ahead positively - wherever...

I want to know exactly what Chriddi wants to know. These are very good questions to which every stakeholder would like to have an answer.

And while you're at it, I'd like to know the following:

Who is the Steemit Foundation?

Can you please introduce the foundation to your stakeholders. Management, finances, board of trustees and purpose of the foundation would suffice for now. That would be very nice.

Some weeks ago it was launched a discussion to talk about abuse, some ideas were expressed there for cases like haejin and other spamm and milking cases. In my understanding the kind of attacks on this time came directly from nodes, and boundaries on freedom of speech were clearly trespassed (doxing and racist attacks for example).

In the view of many steem holders with no airdrop, these hive assets existed in their wallets and were also transferred to the hive dao to make pledges (if not a code proven traitor to descentralization) to get them returned. It's what happened with all the Steemit Inc assets. In the first instance it was said that these "toxic" funds will not exist in hive, but this was not accurate. Before and after the fork many people have proposed to burn them, but until now they are still there. In the HF23 announcement it was set the same procedure to get the Steem back for those holders, but... here comes this strange Robin Hood giving the assets to the US Law. Of course, there's many more pieces in the puzzle to discover.

I think it's an interview in a Korean site with some of the administrators of TripleAAA.

These are just opinions, much probably not answers.

Best wishes for projects and life, @Chriddi!!

Many thanks for this information, dear @leveuf
It is very good to meet a user who can communicate in a reasonable way. Sometimes, unfortunately, condemning vocabulary and insults dominate the conversation, even flags on a few polite, factual questions... :-(

These are just opinions, much probably not answers.

Maybe, but they were also helpful. I'm so tired of picking information out of emotionally colored comments and rumors - partly on "foreign" channels like Discord or Twitter - and still hope for an "official", factual statement.

All the best to you too!

Yes, for me the main problem in all this situation begun with communication. The technical operation on these platforms is a mystery for many users, let aside the economy and politics. Many have all the technical knowledge or the stake, but lack of ability to negotiate. Pretty much that's how societies work.

The fork gave me an opportunity to learn more about blockchain in general and different coins (also the lockdown), it's a big and constantly growing space. I'm used for everyday life, to find information in as many sources as possible, I was comfortable here, but then feel sorry when I discovered that I was being "gatekeeped".

My question, is there an official authority who establish what is 'decentralization' and what is not? Who it is? People have been judged and punished for that simple word since Valentine's Day.

Systems are complex. Some time ago I discussed with a dev about Open Source, it was the time of Utopian, my post touched a little of Windows for developers, and some others open source applications not on Github. Of curse, it was about a contribution not accepted. Plenty of attacks to Microsoft. Months later Microsoft buys Github, the site where are placed all the codes of these platforms we much love. What does this mean?

My hope is everybody to set a positive plan for the real value here, human esteeming interactions, that's what I learned here and I think it can be applied everywhere.

It's for me a pleasure to meet you @Chriddi, and it's good to talk.
Have an excellent day.

I wish I had had this information BEFORE the hardfork. For example, spamming and milking annoyed me a lot, but I didn't know that it would affect the stability of the system.

It doesn't. They're straight up lying. Don't expect thieves to be honest.

I have deliberately refrained from using condemnatory vocabulary (and, of course, swear words), as these are always negative and thus imply a verbal attack. This is not helpful to get factual information.
Please accept that I - from both sides - want to get as much relevant information as possible and do not want to laboriously pick it out of emotionally colored comments. I will try to do this with reasonable communication.

In Germany there is a saying: "As you call into the forest, so it echoes out." In this case it means: I have politely asked factual questions and now I expect polite, factual answers from those I have addressed.

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