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RE: Question for the Guys who don't want a Government
Because there will be no money to pay people to provide these services. And always that I ask this question everybody ends up saying "you are a troll", I am not a troll I just don't get answers just people who are day dreaming of what they think would be a Utopia. Marx had those kinds of dreams,see how that turned out.
I told you fiat isn't money, and you completely ignored that point. There are precious metals and countless cryptos. What other currency or money do you need???
OK, first I am not trying to put you down or trying to present myself as a know it all, sorry if you get that impression, but again in my post I stated that crypto can't cover the US economy for more than a week in that time a few will have complete control over it, or are you going to have some sort of cryptocurrency central bank, I guess that would defeat anarchism or libertarianism at the kickoff? Precious metals, yes , they have always had value, but remember metals are stored you can't go around with jewels and metals in your clothes or pockets, that is why the Chinese came up with paper money, more efficient easier to carry, and backed by an empire, so are you going to come up with something similar? Also to trade with other countries are you just going to barter?I think these are enough questions, I really am not against you, and I do think the current forms of government available in the world are completely incapable of continuing in their present form for more than a few decades, but I really would like to see real alternatives, not what Mr. Kokesh says about ending the government as soon as he is inaugurated, I think that is just not possible.
Uhm, nations traded just fine for thousands of years without central banks.
Yes, but there was always some central authority, an empire a theocracy or something, all of this control evolved into central banks, that is what should be the main aim of any movement to change the current state of things, how to eliminate control from the few, and I fail to see solutions which is why I ask questions, I want to know the alternatives, I want to know if there are specific ideas about what economic system can be expected. You have to excuse me if I am not that clear, English is not my native language.
No, there was not. In some areas, such as Europe, there were central control entities like the church or an empire, but for the most part it was individual nation states competing and trading.
We don't need central governments. You're typing on a decentralized and far distributed social network at this moment. Why would we need a central authority to interact then and make exchanges?
But who controlled the nation states?
Tyrants? They didn't need central banks or fiat currency though to trade. They traded goods for other goods, goods for precious metals, etc.
No, the concept of banks came later but even before the Greeks they already had metal coins that in themselves were worth nothing, but they were backed by city states, so for about all of what is called history money has existed in one way or another and there has always been a central power that backs it. Whether it was the Chinese, Alexander the Great, the Romans etc. I am not saying I am for or against it I just don't see how you can change this system for something better, and that is what I am looking for.
Merchants didn't have to get permission from governments back then to do trade either.
In the imperial period, there was great state control over trade in order to guarantee supply (the annona system) and even a state merchant fleet, replacing the system during the Republic of paying subsidies (vecturae) to encourage private shipowners. There was a specific official in charge of the grain supply (the praefectus annonae) who regulated the various shipowner associations (collegia navicularii). The state taxed the movement of goods between provinces and also controlled many local markets (nundinae) - often held once a week - as the establishment of a market by a large land-owner had to be approved by the Senate or emperor. (This is talking about Rome)