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If shtf then maybe I will try and lead the lynch mobs until that time I work to try and improve things.
Local warlords might rape and murder you if they feel like it. Your local political leaders could go to jail for that.

What is the difference between what we have and a local lynch mob except that folks go to jail rather than a light pole?
Its the same people you claim to fear.

We have some jury trials and rape and murder is illegal. Under anarchy it is debatable which mob would win. Humans pretty much always band together.
Have you ever met any real thugs?

Have you ever met any real thugs?

Asked the guy with a suit and tie,...
Ive met killers, a fair number of them, criminals of all types, actually.

I still dont see the difference between what we have and what you claim to be scared of.
Plenty of cops raping and killing.

lol
Yeah so if you think it's the police that are the problem we are quite simply not on the same page. I think the laws need to be changed and we probably need to repeal the drug laws but I don't think the police are the problem. Even with the drug laws though I still don't think people should be doing them. Police also do some revenue generation with speeding tickets and stuff but even with that I'm not sure people should be doing 100+ on the expressway or 50 mph in a residential zone where children are playing.

So, you agree that freedom is not your goal, just a more a palatable, to you, slavery, and you are fine with armed thugs running things?
Its ok to rob folks that dont want to pay as long as the money is spent protecting them from everybody except the thugs that force them to pay?

Perfection is not an option, put me down for letting folks find their own solutions free from institutional coercive rule by force.

I would like way more freedom and way less government with no income taxes but I think we do need a criminal justice system public roads and trash collection and a military with about 10% of the current spending level and maybe some other stuff but we do need to begin scaling back government.
I think we had a pretty decent government before the income taxes. We need to begin scaling back I don't think we can eliminate all of our social welfare programs overnight and we should start by cutting things like military spending.

Ok, now we are getting somewhere.
All thosethings can be organized from the locals up.
We dont tear out the interstates because they were financed by extortion any more than we let walmart's trucks sit idle because there isnt enough waltons to drive them all.
We start where we are and move forward.
Absent coercive rule from higher on the pyramid.
Empowered to get our jobs done without waiting for orders from on high.

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