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RE: Universal Basic Income is our future, at least according to Mark Zuckerberg

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I personally am not a fan of the government doing much of anything. My utopia is a world where we don't need government.

I didn't argue my points from this perspective though.

I simply played Devil's Advocate for what I think could happen if it came to pass.

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Absolutely, I gathered that from your post, which I thought was excellently stated. My comment served to back the underlying claim. Furthermore, government is an attempt at creating utopia. Government puts the means of a monopoly of legal violence into the hands of a few, (some elected and most not) with the ideolistic ambition that this will create a stable regional power; in which trade can commence, unmolested. However, this is a fundamental fallacy because government survives principally though the regulation and taxation (molestation) of citizens' voluntary interactions. There is not need for a state because state functions can and are arbitrated by and between private entities (ie companies and individuals) without mandate of power or the use of aggression or monopoly of force. For more check this out

The Jones Plantation

Yep, I am very familiar with this. I also saw that video not long after Larken created it.

Though I also have a realization. For Anarcho-Capitalism to work a large portion of the population would need some different education. We teach very little critical thinking. It is mostly lead by emotion and people have no concepts of Appeal to Authority, Appeal to Tradition, Red Herrings, and other common fallacies.

I tend to lean towards Anarcho-Capitalism myself but I realize that if we flipped a switch and tried to do that today it would fail miserably. It would not fail due to it being a flawed idea.

It would fail due to most of the population not understanding critical thinking, and lacking understanding of self responsibility.

So as much as I'd like that type of environment and it is my ultimate goal at the moment. I do not see it as WORKING today.

Thus, I tend to focus on the critical thinking angle. That is the windmill which I've chosen to tilt. If I can get more people thinking differently then perhaps some day we can get them there. I've even had a little dialog about this before here on steemit with Larken.

My goal is the same. I just have chosen to fight where I see myself making the most difference. That is not bludgeoning them with the concepts until they agree with me. Instead I choose to engage on a critical thinking level, and hopefully inspire people to think, research, learn and eventually understand the Anarchism/Voluntaryism concepts better.

Those concepts cannot work without a population capable of critical thinking. It'd fall apart fairly rapidly.

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Voluntarism does NOT require critical thought. It requires nothing and that is the best part, it is in effect today. Government needs a populace to hold it together, the mere act of voluntary exchange does not. It is government that subverts the ever present forces of voluntary transaction at work, not the other way around. Critical thinking can enable companies of people, interacting in the free market to create alternatives to the institutions of society - that is just dandey. However, government monopoly of violence prices out companies that could take over the functions of government.

If there is a demand, there will be a supply. Violence interrupts this chain of exchange. What will it take to get fair priced police, military etc? A free method of exchange. When will this occur? The fall of the currency, and mass disillusionment with government coming out of cotastrophy (WWIII, etcetera).

You are an ideological brother of mine! We are first on the battlefield of the coming revolution, Steemit. Hopefully we will not need to take to the streets in defense of the free internet. Cheers.

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Oh in case you didn't know. Larken Rose is here on Steemit and has been for awhile. He will occasionally get pretty active. @larkenrose

Quite a few other prominent minds in the anarchist/voluntaryist movement have also participated on steemit from time to time.

EDIT: Sadly Larken and others are missing out on big earnings at the moment as the payouts are once again in a very lucrative range.

Thanks for directing me to his page. Do you have more resources on how you came to terms with the inability of populations to accept a cohesion-free social order? (and don't say the Kardashian show's ratings)

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