it is mind boggling how long laser.online has stayed up.Figure a site like that would shut down about halfway through its second cycle. So tempting, but I figure it's ripe to shut down anyday (or stay up another month and make a fool out of me)

Chain group (with the 3rd party offerings) have only been up for about a 3-4 weeks. I have some money (not alot) with them and a success withdraw.