RE: Decentmemes.com Logo Contest
You should read the other comment I left. In short, your response is full of shit; it is based on the false premise that a) symbols exist independently of meaning (they don’t) and that b) people are upset/sensitive about a cartoon (they aren’t). You are deflecting from
the facts.
Iconography means things, and Pepe, these days, is a racist symbol. Use it and you can expect to be identified as a racist. It is in active and widespread current usage by racists for that exact purpose, regardless of what you do or don’t do. Fact: Most people using Pepe today are doing so to express identification with a group that espouses racist and nationalist beliefs.
because the logo itself isn't racist.
You just did exactly the thing that I predicted you would do. The logo is indeed racist, and this is what plausible deniability-seeking racists say to hide behind ambiguity.
Just admit that it’s racist imagery, admit you fucked up by using it, and move on.
Just admit your boots are racist imagery, admit you fucked up by using it, and move on.
You are being ridiculously hypocritical.
There are so many sources, even the ADL itself, telling you the MAJORITY of uses of Pepe are NOT classified as hate speech. It is the context and intent of the message.
Taking a selfie with a gun isnt threatening or hate speech. Adding text telling kids at your school to stay home to it is because of the context and the intent.
I'm not sure how else to say this to you .. I used the Pepe symbol and I am not a white nationalist nor a racist, that is PROOF right there that some uses of the Pepe symbol are NOT with hateful intent.
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This is the last comment I will make and the last time I will waste on this discussion since it seems you just want to start to accuse me of bullshit that you cannot prove and have no basis for. Besides the fact that I used a MEME icon for a MEME website that is about making DECENT memes. Pepe was always known as a depressive frog, therefore the acceptance of the DECENT memes and not SUPERB memes.
Now that you understand MY INTENT do you still want to call me a racist or say that I promote such ideology? Answer if you want, I am getting back to work and this isn't yielding much benefit.
You commented about a bad current logo on a post about making a new logo
Maybe you just wanted some debate.
The ADL is out of date. Go look at current Pepe usage; it's all nazis. Everyone who isn't a nazi dropped it like a hot potato the moment the tide turned about a year ago.
Nazi boots
'nuff said.
Even the actual nazis say you’re full of shit:
https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t305107/
I knew you were going to say it was wrong. You would rather defend your Nazi symbol instead of just admitting you were wrong.
When the Nazis deny they use lace color for anything we MUST TRUST THEM! But if anyone ever denies their use of Pepe in a racist way WE MUST NOT TRUST THEM.
Aka, you are selectively choosing to believe that which benefit your personal stance.
Shut the fuck up and grow up dude. Don't you have some code to be working on or something?
Flagged for linking a hate forum on my projects post.
We'd be having a different conversation if you weren't in the process of changing the logo. Perhaps you were simply ignorant of the fact that Pepe is a racist symbol, in active use primarily by racists today. Now that you know that, if you persisted in using it, it would be implicit endorsement, yes. One's individual attitudes and opinions do not define the meaning of a symbol in society.
Most people think pepe and his original incarnations pre-election cycle were fucking hilarious, you clearly haven't been around the internet long enough to know that pepe comes in many forms and is enjoyed by many people the world over.