RE: Decentmemes.com Logo Contest
The church cross has been used by unreligious groups and the KKK. Should the cross be abandoned because some bad actors used it, still to this day, as their icon?
I am tempted to say “are you fucking serious?!” but then I realized that straw man arguments involve intentionally mischaracterizing the argument made against you so that it can be ridiculed.
The cross is not a racist symbol, despite the KKK having used it. They were and are a tiny minority of users. Just like the pre-NSDAP use of the swastika. Those usages are irrelevant to the meaning of the symbol in our society. (That meaning is independent of your own beliefs and opinions, and exists regardless of whether you think it should or not.)
Pepe, today, is being used primarily by people who espouse racist and nationalist beliefs, completely regardless of your own personal opinions about Pepe. That is a fact. Use it, and you can reasonably be expected to be lumped in with them, and it will be no one’s fault but your own.
@sneak I had this very same argument with my brother when he changed his profile pic on Facebook to Pepe the frog. He claimed he didn’t know it’s use of being a symbol of white supremacy when I knew full well he did. My own brother has always been about white pride and frankly it’s disgusting!
He then blocked me and we haven’t spoken in 6 months.
This person knows exactly what it symbolizes too unless he lives under a rock which clearly, he doesn’t. He just doesn’t care.
Sorry your brother is a worthless white pride person but you subjective experience is hardly telling about all of society.
Sorry without numbers or proof, I simply brush off your point that Pepe is used primarily by people that push the white nationalism side of things. That is why I brought up your possession of the "Nazi boots" as well.
Just google "Nazi boots" and look at what comes up.
You aren't wearing "Nazi boots" to promote Naziism just like I am not using Pepe to promote nationalism. I am not sure why it seems hard to understand that despite your view of how you think Pepe (or anything else) has been used, other people are either ignorant to that particular use or just plainly dont subscribe to it.
https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols - This is where Pepe was classified that makes it fit your narrative.
Other hate symbols in the Hate Symbols Database: 12, 13, 14, 14 words, 18, 28, 38, 43, and probably all the other numbers in the world.
More about Pepe: https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/pepe-the-frog
Kind of interesting when you use the information that Pepe is primarily used by nationalists when the Hate Symbol Database itself refutes that claim.
Btw, I find a lot of religious symbology to be hateful. I'm just not going to twist an obvious non-hateful use of the symbology into one that is on a far extreme.
You just had to ask if you were unsure how the logo was being used. Hell, had I know about any of this stuff then, I might have used it as ironic shock value.
You should use a swastika then if you are going for ironic shock value by reusing nazi imagery. It would send a clearer message and save people a lot of time on you.
I said if I had known about this childish shit I might have poked fun at it just because of how fucking ridiculous it is.
No one said I did use it for shock value so don't twist my words. I told you precisely why I used it, I responded civilly to let you know your concerns were unfounded.
You refuse to accept that something you consider bad was used without intent or context of that meaning. You are a child and have some pretty poor social skills as evident many times across this website.
Btw, your buddy @berniesanders NICELY let me know the use of the logo a couple days before acidyo made the post seeking a new logo. He agrees with you and believes the logo has been misappropriated but didnt approach the subject with accusations like you have done and continue to do even after participating in a discussion that unequivocally debunks your bullshit claim.
I have agreed the frog logo has been used for bullshit racism. I have countered by saying it originated with a different meaning, and I used it completely regardless of its meaning anyway.
I used it because it was a well known meme. Period.
The only reason you think there is more to it is because you are fucking retarded or something. Idk. Have a good day @sneak, wont be replying to your trolling anymore.
One reason I am going to quit replying is because Condenser is absolute shit when it comes to handling a post with many comments. Maybe thats something you could focus your energy on besides arguing a non issue.