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in #deportation6 years ago

Now I'm hoping to start a true debate. Is it right for illegal aliens to be allowed to stay in a country just because they have started a family?

My position is simple, illegal entry is just that. I don't care if it takes them years to find you and you now have grand children. You entered illegally and should be sent back if caught. Unless you fall under asylum rules. O my country is poor we are suffering from hunger. Well most don't know it, but all foreigners who come to the U.S. pay no taxes for 10 years. Just stretch that out to how many homeless and starving we already have, and these were born here, those non collected taxes may decrease homelessness, improve schools.

They want to make a public display hoping that all these torn apart families will be allowed to stay. I DON'T GIVE A FUCK HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THE LAW YOU BREAK IT YOU PAY THE PENALTY.
Someone asked how would i feel if it were my relatives or if it happened to me. Well it has and my position is the same. NO ILLEGAL ENTRY. It just too much of a burden on the economic structure. The illegal population has made it very difficult to make it. Most need 2 jobs to keep the roof over there heads. And lets not forget they openly work for less thus diluting our dollar more and more with the constant growth of the illegal population. Now i could post the numbers to support this but that information is out of the scope of this personal rant on illegals in the U.S.

Tell me what you think. Keep in mind this is to build conscience debate. Not emotionally driven arguments.

Main topics of debate:

  1. Should illegals be allowed to stay?
  2. Has the economic ramifications of illegals been studied?
  3. Have you experienced a deportation of a relative for illegal entry.
  4. Should laws be changed to allow illegals to stay.
  5. Is it right(morally or otherwise) to split up a family with deportation.
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(Sorry for how long this is!)

  1. I don’t believe illegals should automatically gain citizenship. That should be handled on a case to case basis that considers reason they came here, ability/motivation to work (maybe they want to provide for family back home?), their living conditions back home, threats of violence/death, etc.

  2. Yes! A recent study found that Undocumented immigrants pay an average of $11.64 billion in state and local taxes a year. On average, an undocumented individual has about 8% of their income go to taxes. Moreover, all immigrants—regardless of status—will contribute approximately $80,000 more in taxes than government services used over their lifetime.

  3. No, I have not. But I do know immigrants that are here illegally and immigrants that came here illegally then went back to Mexico (for months, sometimes years, which can be quite dangerous) and became citizens the right way.

  4. The laws should be reformed. I’d refer you to my answer to question #1. It should be decided on a case by case basis. It needs to be noted that the current administration has reduced the number of asylum seekers/refugees we accept each year. Also, the vast majority of the ports of entry between Mexico & the U.S. are controlled by the Cartels. They decide who crosses and who doesn’t and Asylum seekers are often forced to either pay ridiculous amounts of money to Cartels to go through the port (legally), be liked or approved by the Cartel (we probably don’t want those people) or asylum seeks are forced to cross the border illegally, where they were separated from their children and arrested.

  5. I believe separating children from their parents is (OBVIOUSLY!) immoral & wrong. I would point you to the various verses in the Bible that refer to the right way to treat foreigners, refugees, the stranger, etc. We have seen not only other countries criticize us for this, but the Pope has also spoken out against the practice as well as the United Methodist Church considering putting Jeff Sessions on trail by the church and potentially removing him from membership.

Thanks for your input anyone else willing to share their thoughts please chime in

Thank you for posting this! Too many people these days just surround themselves in a bubble with people & media sources that they agree with and reinforce their views. Rarely do people seek out all points of view to better educate themselves to other viewpoints while strengthening or potentially changing their positions. Hats off to you for seeking out both sides!