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RE: France and Facebook announce partnership against online hate speech – POLITICO

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Do you talk against all hate speech or only against hate speech which you don't like?

Or then we have the typical option: it's only hate speech if I don't like it.
For example some claim "Muslims should all blow up themselves" is hate speech but "Kill white cis men" is not.

How do you feel about this?

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Hate speech is contextual, white cishets don't have a history of oppression. We dont live in a meritocracy.

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So a history of oppression is required for to be hate speech?
So what is "Kill all white cis males" if not hate speech?

People like this, making imaginary rules what's hate speech and what's not based on what you want are one of the reasons why the "hate speech" doesn't mean much. A very good example of a big issue with socialists and other free speech haters, as you accept attacking on the groups you just dislike and come up with explanations on why it's ok.

People like you, who are valuating people differently on their gender and skin color are a big issue in the world.

"Imaginary". So hundreds of years of pain and suffering is imaginary to you?

WE. DO. NOT. LIVE. IN. A. MERITOCRACY.

Please think before you say things. Nobody "values" white people less than minorities, that's just some cringe fanfiction, the real imaginary rules are the ones you're making up.

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"So hundreds of years of pain and suffering is imaginary to you?"
I didn't say that. No, it's not imaginary, but that doesn't define hate speech.

"WE. DO. NOT. LIVE. IN. A. MERITOCRACY."
No we don't. But that doesn't define hate speech.

And yes, plenty of people value white people less than minorities. Depending on where you live, white people can be a minority.

But also, please take note:

Hate speech against white people is still hate speech.

Unless you want to define hate speech as something related to minorities. But then imagine a white person flying to Ghana and then he couldn't commit hate speech against blacks, because they're a majority there.

If you want to use the history of oppression instead of being a minority as a defining factor in hate speech, then I can tell you this:
It's impossible for me to be accused of hate speech.

I'm from Finland, which has been independant since 1917. Until that, we were under strong oppression of Russia and Sweden. Finns were sold as slaves, it's estimated that at worst 30 000 Finns (of the population of 400 000) were sold and sent as slaves. Finland has suffered from slavery more than any single African nation has.

But were white, so I'm assuming you'll just pretend we have had no oppression, pain or suffering. Instead I'm assuming you see us as someone with a history of priviledge because we're white.

However I'm lucky enough to have a history of oppression, so I use any language I want without it being hate speech. Or how does it work, if someone talks shit about me, it's hate speech, but can I talk shit about others who have not been as badly oppressed?

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