Dtube BuzzSteem Ep. 28 [Will Mass Shootings Ever End?]

in #dtube7 years ago


Hey guys,
I come to you today with a heavy heart. First, if you hadn't already heard, there was a horrific mass school shooting at a Florida high school yesterday.

Secondly, I have a personal political blog that I write on sometimes, and I have been uncovering all of this information about white farming families being brutally murdered in South Africa, and I just blew it off as potential bullocks, but had it pretty much confirmed to me yesterday by someone I know that lives there. The government deliberately does not keep records of these incidents and most have been blown off by the media as "robberies gone wrong". This is seriously something I need to cover in the future, but it was too much to talk about today.

Also, I found out yesterday that the Scottsdale PD is not moving me forward in their selection process. They said I have a fantastic interview, and that I scored in the top of those taking the written tests, but that in order to save time and money, they were only moving forward with those that had previous criminal justice experience. (IE already trained cops.) Considering this was what I was banking on to provide for my family and stabilize our insurance predicament, to say that I am devastated is an understatement. I keep at this path and all of the doors along the way continue to shut in my face, no matter how hard I try at it. Maybe it is just really time to give it up.

The majority of today's talk is the root cause of the seemingly ceaseless mass shootings. But I did manage to throw in some non-depressing discussion as well. This includes

  • @sweetsssj and her public scrutiny now trending on Steemit

  • @haejin's continued struggle to dominate the trending tags

  • SBD's slow but sure climb back up toward $7 and BTC's seemingly steady day around 10k

  • user @drkent and his multi-faceted musical talent

And the Steemian of the Day: user @liveyourdream. He is a vlogger that has a lot of inspirational vlogs about making your life your dream, and potentially becoming a full time dtube vlogger! With how he has been doing lately, it definitely looks like more of a possibility! He is really fun and interesting to listen to, so you should check him out!

Well that does it for today Steemit! Be nice out there. It's a cruel world sometimes...


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I'm sorry you didn't get the job. That really sucks especially with all the other news happening in the world lately. I know you'll be fine and there is a reason for everything that happens. Just keep your head up and keep plugging away at what you want and you will get it.

Thanks! I really do know that, but man it's something I have wanted since I was little and is so hard to let go of! Thanks for the inspo!

@bethwheatcraft this world just needs a change 😭😭

I believe you are going to be just fine. You are very creative and I've been online a long time. It takes a lot to read someone's post every day and smile. You are a real person who doesn't shy away from things that suck but need to be talked about for sure. Be persistent and keep writing, it's great.

Thanks you're sweet! :)

As far as the shooting. Nothing will happen. Nothing will happen until this happens in a school with parents who have money and influence to change it. Otherwise, the government will continue to take money from the NRA. It's how it works. I don't blame one side over another, it's definitely bi-partisan. There is no reason for anyone to have an automatic weapon unless you are military or police IMO. Which is my own.

Yeah I didn't used to think that way, but I definitely do now. At some point it boils down to whose rights trump others? Like, if everyone is allowed to have these weapons, you're putting a lot of people in danger. So giving one person a right is taking another one's potential right to live.

I didn't either. Age and experience make you see it and I'm glad I have. At first you are horrified. Then you realize it's always been this way. The hopefulness we have as humans It's got the 5 stages of grief attached to it. What we think is everyone shares our own values but that's not the case. Then we find out, everyone just pretends to do what's right and show that on the outside and really do what's for $. If that' wasn't the case this HUGE gun issue would have been solved a long time ago. What other possible reason is there to let this continue? Both parties are responsible for it.

Thank you for pointing out the hypocrisy of Hollywood speaking out against guns and the sexualization of women, when they are the fucking kingpins of both.

We really need some of the Vulcan influence that comes when we figure out the warp drive...

Ya know, I always wondered how the Klingons figured shit out. Like seriously. I may honestly devote a whole upcoming blog to that bahaha. It took humans until the absolute best of their humanity to figure out warp drive, and they humans in Star Trek are pretty great. With how awful and barbaric the Klingons are, how did they ever figure shit out?

There's a race in Voyager called the Kazon that are even dumber than the Klingons!
I aspire to be like a Romulan.

Schools need to be decentralized. People need more space. But I think we've passed the point of no return. After the bloodbath, there will be peace again and people will have more space.

This is the opposite of what the state says: we need unity, to become one family. No. We need our personal space. Weinstein was but one example of the overreach authority has on boundary issues. The #metoo hashtag started trending as Jupiter entered Scorpio. Once people respect personal boundaries and achieve some degree of contentment, there will be peace.

Maybe. Although I believe that only possible for the sane. Perhaps we have treated the mentally ill in the past barbarically, but it probably prevented a lot of death and massacres. Now we handle those people with kid gloves, and we get this. Even if everyone was allowed their own independence, I doubt it would solve the issue of the psychopathic. And we are naturally social creatures. So as long now as there are people gathering, there will be people to meet them with guns or box trucks.

Yeah, I think the problems run much deeper than just the guns and sometimes violence is answered with more violence. Now if the most violent entity on Earth does away with it's guns, then maybe .... But then again that is what Kennedy wanted to do and we all know what they did to him; more violence.
Really? Last minute upvote on our content matters? I wait until my VP is near it's puny $0.03 max as I usually burn it on other people's stuff.
Sorry they made you go through this process if they were only looking to hire former soldiers anyway. Greetings!

Last minute upvotes just mean that you bypass the natural process of your posts value going down. I had an $80 post shrink to $65 in just the last couple of hours of its existence. If you don't use your upvote until the very last minute, that won't happen. (oh and if you have that ridiculous amount of money to begin with. I think my most valuable upvote at its max is like .12)

I better start setting an alarm clock then, bwahaha! I bet they have an automated thingymahjingy for that last minute self ...

You say people aren't ready to govern themselves, but people are all we have to work with. The only real choices are supporting the idea that people should all be considered equal and held to the same standards morally and ethically, or supporting the idea that some people should be recognized as exempt from those standards and allowed to ignore certain ethical principles in order to enforce standards on others.

I'm not arguing that abolishing the government would suddenly cause everyone to embrace peace and sound ethics, but I do think that supporting and excusing some people who claim a special right to use violence will result in a more violent society. Promoting a coherent ethical framework and teaching people why peace is objectively better than violence I think are essential to building a more peaceful society, and I don't see how a person can reconcile those efforts with defending centralized government power.

Well this is the reality/pseudo reality problem I have with Libertarianism. Libertarians want to believe that most people are inherently good, because Libertarians themselves are. Some people just aren't. Actually a lot of people just aren't. It would be wonderful if people could have some sense just talked into them, but as I said, I think we are generations away from that kind of thinking. There will always be two types of people: The followers and the Advantage Takers. There will be a great majority of people that agree with you and do indeed think peace is objectively better than violence. I would reason to say even the majority of people. But there will be outliers as well, ready to pounce on people as soon as they feel safe in this new peaceful community they have created. As it stands right now, the only thing keeping some of those people from going out and committing crimes is the threat of centralized government power, of being locked away.

The more simplistic way I see it even is through my own children. One is a carrot and the other a stick. My daughter can be reasoned with, she understands that good behavior leads to positive results, so she is well behaved nearly all the time. My son cannot be reasoned with. He is a stick. He needs threats, punishments, time-outs and things taken away from him. No amount of reasoning with him will get him to behave properly. He has to know there is consequence for his actions.

My real question then is, what are the proposed consequences in an anarchist society for those that just won't conform to an ethical framework of peace? And then who enforces that? I think it's naive to expect that every person will choose peace over power, or what they perceive as power. Some (men especially) think that peace makes you weak, and this is possibly a trait built into our DNA. So what do we do with those people? How does a decentralized society take care of lawbreakers, or disrupters of the peace, without inherently resorting to some form of centralizing?

I'm not a pacifist, and I fully recognize and accept the need to apply force against those who attempt to exploit others violently. I'm aware that many people are horrible and abusive. That's all the more reason no one should be exempt from accountability, and no one organization should have a monopoly on dispute resolution. Centralization is not fault tolerant, so the need for decentralization only increases when a lot of people aren't trustworthy. It's unreasonable to talk about the amount of abuse agents of a centralized government may deter while ignoring the amount of abuse they commit themselves.

I like the model of competing arbitration and security agencies, but the core principle is the rejection of double standards. Hopefully I'll get more written on this in the near future.

In everything give thank to God Almighty: there is a reason and purpose for whatever happens: but the problem is, who is to tell man the reason why things happen: and that has compounded the misery of man.

It is okay, in due time you will know why it happened and you won't regret any more

I think we all need to stop and think about the root cause of the problem here. We need stop and try not to judge and look at the big picture. We need to try and not jump not on a bandwagon and think for ourselves without judgement. Its hard for people to get a clear picture on controversial problems like this. To many people do not sit and think about things. They jump on a bandwagon and judge instantly. They read an article on something judging as they read it either agreeing or dismissing as they read. They get to the end of the article hit like or a sad face maybe a angry face. They never stopped to think about it. They move onto the next article forgetting about it the next day or even 5 minutes later. I am not saying we are all like this but there is quite a few.

I believe this is a mental problem. Just one example is this. Lets just say we have a teenager that is being bullied everyday at school. In the beginning they tell a teacher about the bullying, the teacher talks to the bullies and the they say they didn't do it or that they are sorry. The teacher turns around and walks away she is not even out of sight and the bullies are already mocking you quietly in plain sight right behind the teachers back. No one is helping this person at school and its a endless cycle. Trying to get help only for nothing to happen. Now on top of it you are getting bullied even more for being a snitch. At the end of school he goes home and there is no relief there either. Maybe his parents are abusive or they don't really take the time to listen to him. You are always dismissed on everything that means something to you and your problems are "not a big deal". Maybe your parents just say suck it up laugh and say everyone goes through it and you will be fine.

My example has allot going on for one person and given a persons upbringing everyone has their breaking points. Anyone that has had problems mentally knows how hard it is. A teenager has so many hormones and emotions on top of it all. A person does not just decided to just go shooting people. A stable person does not play a video game and think about shooting people in real life. A person is not born bad. A bad upbringing, and many other things lead to problems in life mentally. A abusive upbringing can cause allot of anger on top of not seeing a normal relationships and not learning to deal with problems the right way.

How about we fix the root cause of this instead of banning guns. There might be a few less school shootings but it won't stop them. Lets just say we magically ban all guns and no one can get them not even the bad guys. Do we really want our kids hanging in a closet dead from suicide cause no one was helping them? Sure it might be better then a school shooting, but don't we still have a problem here? We would still have the root cause of the problem a mental health problem in one shape of another from abuse or bullying it could be many things. I love to hear other peoples view on these things maybe I am missing something here.