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Right on!
Did I ever pay tax? I don’t think so 🤪
I actually should write a book, telling how this is even possible. IT IS!

Wait really? Tell us! LOL

This would be a story of my life and lifestyle but not in public @kaylinart I just wrote earlier that I don’t mean that anybody should copy! Just master the #artofliving

Das klingt ja mal spannend :-) - erzähl mir mehr - gute Nacht erst einmal Party Maus

Oh well! Zuerst war ich ja ganz brav bis sie mich so nieder getaxed haben, dass ich gleich mal auf und davon bin. Damals habe ich geschworen, dass diese Diebe nie mehr einen Cent von mir bekommen. #artoflife 😋

Bitcoin is part of the counter-economy. An easy way to avoid tax is to move as many of your transactions to the counter-economy as possible. Buy from individuals whenever you can. Use craigslist if possible. Use cryptos instead of fiat when possible. Inform others. When we stop giving our money to our enemy the state we will starve it. Wen we participate in the counter-economy it will grow. Eventually it will overtake the the white market and then we will win. #Agora #Anarchy #Action!

YES PLEASE! Fuck um..

I sure will pick up that book 😊

Inflation is also a TAX... a hidden tax.

Sure! I don’t need to be “picky” and go into details. You All might know, what I mean.

Don't you buy anything? Some taxes are hidden/included in price...

Different story with goods I buy!
You are right but I never share my income with them. How? Story would be too long to explain. Some might ask : Who is the “criminal” ? Delicate topic!

Better not use public services then either.

Same old silly argument! We don’t need governments to build our roads.
Roads were here before taxes !! @gamer00 you are brainwashed!

Don't be naive. There will always be a government of a sort. If it's not a modern state, then it will be a gang of common criminals who will come to your door and extort valuable things from you. From a modern state with representative democracy and division of powers, you at least get something back. When states collapse, the result will not be a libertarian paradise but rule by violent gangs.

You made your point but I’m done with this topic.

Then you should not be using any tax payer paid services. No public schools, no public libraries, no universal medicine for you. How do you like them apples?

I wouldn't be here talking to you if there were no tax paid healthcare, so I must be the one who's brainwashed. Thank you for wishing me dead.

I moved to Indonesia, paid for my daughters privat schools, doctors etc....chose to use my earned and well deserved income for things my family needed. No public library in Bali, So, we bought books for local children and much much more I am in no mood to explain further.
Now I am back in Austria, helping my over 90’s mother age-ing and live off my own “income” through cryptocurrency, to get through my “pension” period in life to come. I am not dependant on any state!
I never wish anybody “dead” but many seem to be.
Should I feel guilty because I lived my life the way I chose is Best for me and loved ones?
I am not sorry to use public streets or subways? Tickets are not free. So yes , you are right I had to pay my portion of some “ hidden” taxes indeed.....🙏

Here's some information about taxation in Indonesia. Indonesia seems to have a progressive income taxation system in place. If @mammasitta is a permanent resident of Indonesia and not paying any taxes, she's probably committing tax fraud. You can't legally avoid taxes except by utilizing loopholes which might be possible in some cases.

Did you earn income when you were an Austrian kid too, or did you just have rich parents? I bet you never got ill, so you didn't have to use any tax paid services, nor did you use the public library ever when you lived in Austria.

Whatever you pay for transportation in ticket fees is not the same as paying taxes for a working infrastructure.

The way I see it is I pay taxes to keep things working, I pay taxes to keep the public healthcare so that I don't have to pay exorbitant fees if I get sick. I pay taxes so I can use the library for as much as I like with no extra fees. I pay taxes so that whenever there's an accident, a fire breaks out, or a crime happens, there is always someone I can call for professional help, without having to dish out huge sums of money to do so.

Taxes are simply a small sum off my "deserved income" to keep certain things rolling, and that's a good thing.

@uwelang better offline 🙄💫

NITRO in support !

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Can't upvote this enough! Inflation occurs because Governments endlessly print money into worthless obvilion (anyone for rolling a wheelbarrow of FIAT currency into a supermarket in Zimbabwe or Venezuela to do your weekly grocery shopping? No? Didn't think so!).

Governments are printing it endlessly because they can. FIAT currencies are no longer attached to anything of real, tangible, intrinsic value (such as precious metals like gold and silver). So, they just print more when they feel like they need to; to try and paper over cracks in a country's economy. But that only works for so long until the value of the money is so worthless that you have the above mentioned wheelbarrow scenario. This kind of economics is not sustainable.

Like others, I believe in having some other/alternative stores of wealth such as cryptos' (until the IRS completely erodes them! Or, picking the best ones that are more private and storing wealth there), gold/silver, and even tangible assets like property because they actually have a use/life necessity (roof over one's head!).

Crypto is definitely what we need and where we're headed. But a more solid grasp of fiat currency - as well as the forces that need fiat currency for (attempted but ultimately futile) financial manipulation - makes for a more balanced conversation, as well as insight into the forces opposing crypto.

Gold was abused by ancient sovereigns in much the same way as today's fiat currency.

Fiscal and monetary policy - they heart of current economic policy of all central banks and governments - would be would relegated to the ash-bin of history.

Countries that lost control of their currencies have, historically, lost control of their economies.

But that's only consequential within a world that fractured in so many ways, including economically. Crypto is part of a greater move towards unity. Towards interconnectedness that transcends national boundaries. Or, perhaps, the disappearance of all walls of separation.

This has gotten kind of lengthy and there's so much more to say...maybe I'll turn into a post.

If by saying governments (printing) you mean central banks, yes, they are watering down their stock ( dollars, yen, euros)in an asymptotic way. They (the central banks)do it because they must, having made some large bets on the future expansion of the money supply. The 'people' do not need to worry about all that created money, they will never see any of it.

Haha nice

Hi ,
Thanks for sharing

agree! but it will hurt coinbase a bit!

The Masonic monument outside the IRS says it all:
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The pyramid with "We the people" which is the lower black part being tax farmed by the Ruling Elites at the top.
The 2 pillars which is the Duality and the 2 hands (Left vs Right) of the same Beast to symbolize the Hegelian Dialectic with which they rule.
All in plain sight yet some people still don't get it.
Unfortunately Bitcoin allows the IRS to track all transactions. A few famous Bitcoin (and Steemit) personalities have already gone public claiming to have been "hacked" since the IRS Coinbase court ruling. Whether that'll be enough to escape the grabbing hands of the IRS remains to be seen.
Probably a privacy coin like Monero is a safer haven, while Zcash seems untrustworthy
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Well seriously some taxes make sense unless you want to go pave your own roads and upkeep on them. I don't mind paying some taxes but lately the shit I see them blow my hard earned money on discusses me and I should have the option more to say yes or no to certain things.

Roads came before taxes...it’s a myth you need goverment to build roads.

You have lived for too long under a stable, lawful, and functioning modern state for a government. There is no such thing as no government unless you live in the sticks with pretty much nobody around. When the state breaks down, what you can expect is something like Russia in the 1990's at best: criminal gangs taking over everything and fighting a shooting war over turf.

Privately owned toll roads that are built with tax dollars and then charge the tax payer again every time they access it? Which road tax are you promoting?

You guys are being harsh!
He's still on his path to emancipation, just much less advanced than you guys...
Try educating him :3

Not really; even that can be done on a voluntary basis. The early corporations were established up do build roads, bridges, and other infrastructure projects. The difference back then was that these entities were temporary and disbanded upon the completion of the project.

Roads are paid for by gasoline tax, which is a relatively fair tax (as much as that's possible) - the more you drive, the more wear & tear you put on the roads, the more you pay.

U.S. Supreme Court Justice John Marshall once said that the power to tax is the power to destroy.

A former Chairman of the Federal Reserve (don't recall which one, but it was before Greenspan) said that income tax is no longer necessary for funding the government, but is being used for income redistribution and social engineering. It should be abolished, and not replaced with anything; no flat tax, no national sales tax, no "fair" tax (what is that?), no tax, period.

Go back to raising money via duties, imposts, excise and tariffs, like the Founders provided for in the Constitution, a brilliant document that doesn't address the times (then or now), which change, but human nature, which doesn't.

A former Chairman of the Federal Reserve (don't recall which one, but it was before Greenspan) said that income tax is no longer necessary for funding the government, but is being used for income redistribution and social engineering. It should be abolished, and not replaced with anything; no flat tax, no national sales tax, no "fair" tax (what is that?), no tax, period.

Our station life is, in a statistical sense, mainly determined by the social class we're born into and our genetics. The rest is determined by our own efforts and pure luck with the latter being much more significant when it comes to great success. Why is pure luck so significant? Because even brilliant visionaries who are extremely driven require precise timing and connections for a breakthrough in business. The world is much too complex for anybody to get everything right except with luck.

Because the highest levels of success depend on factors that are beyond anybody's control, the fruits of the highest levels of success should be distributed accordingly. In accumulation of wealth in the hands of few individuals to the degree it is accumulated today, there is a high risk of political corruption.

Libertarianism is not even sustainable. Extreme levels of wealth accumulation lead to an unstable society prone to a populist takeover of the brown or the red kind. A hundred years ago, the world was in a very similar situation to what we're facing today. Runaway social inequality and instability led to the Russian revolution and the Nazis rising to power in Germany. Similar processes are at work in the West today, resulting in Trump, Brexit and right-wing populists rising everywhere in Europe.

Totally agree,

love you man:) and i will also post vdeos about tax

In this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes.

Great post.