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RE: You are ruining your own product!

in #enough5 years ago

Everything is subjective is it not? When you group bully anyone for doing anything, like you do, it in my eyes is wrong! You can do or say what you want, but my comment stands, you are ruining your own product!.

By using tipu, you lose 20% the 20% is given back to the community, is that bad?

The biggest abusers on here have never been held to account, so I get it, you go after smaller accounts.

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I have seen plenty of posts like this, but I do not want to drive people away from Steem, especially if they have quality posts. What we do want is real curation. If people do want to promote their posts they can decline rewards, but most I see with paid votes do not get much engagement anyway.

Like @slobberchops I support dozens of small accounts. I do not self vote. Being part of the community is what brings rewards. I've taken on some big abusers and suffered for it, but others support me.

I don't see anything else like Steem out there, so I will continue to support it as it has great potential to help many people around the world. I hope you find something that works for you.

May I thank you for the time you took to reply.

My point stands, using tipu that is none profitable, and gives 20% back to the community is now considered bad, by who?
By losing 20% does that now make me some sort of imbecile?
I am failing to see your logic!.

The community decides what is acceptable and buying votes distorts the reward distribution. I do what I consider is best for Steem.

You do not do what is best for steem, you never have, you all got it down this far, with your own negative actions.
You let haejin abuse this place for years, via his rancho account, only a few people stepped up like fulltimegeek.

He has now cashed out, why?

There are numerous people on here like chbartist or what ever his name is that "have" abused this place, but, you want to take that out on me, for using a service that loses me 20%? Your logic is fucked to be honest.
I wish you all well, I will sell my steem at 1 cent, and give you what you deserve, fuck all.

Oh shit? Where are they now? Damn, better leave STEEM for the n-th time.

@iamstan sends you his regards. Lol

I know who you are, I care not what you think.

Oh really? Who am I?

If you think I'm Stan, then damn you are dumb as hell. lol

Of course you care, otherwise you wouldn't be responding.

Let's make "leaving Steem" a reality for you okay?

Steemd leaves a trail a mile long, think on!

Are you telling me I have to leave you fucking idiot?

I downvoted them both. Opinions are like arseholes...

And arseholes act like them, you have not actually addressed anything I have said, you just go with your current group think. Pathetic!

You obviously don't know me. Peace

Yes, I'm special and unique :) I expect you are a snowflake too. I assume you meant it as a compliment. I'm sure you would not resort to childish name-calling.

You are not the first to make wrong assumptions about my intentions. There are motivations other than self-interest.

Merry Christmas.

I simply gave you a video to watch, free of charge, I have not called you any names, unlike some of your tribe, I am dignified, Merry xmas, right back to you,

Didn't watch it, but didn't realise it was a video originally. Not going to watch it all anyway. I really am not looking for fights. The only reason I would downvote you is over the source of your rewards, not your opinions. Some people just take it personally. I take no responsibility for what others may do. We are individuals who happen to work together and we don't always agree.

Anyway, it's Christmas and I need to be spending time with the family rather than debating with strangers online. I wish you all the best even if you don't believe me.

Enjoy the precious time with loved ones, it is what everyone in life is for, again merry xmas, have a superb holiday season, make merry and be happy.

Do you feel that you are receiving downvotes because of the content of your posts or because you have used bots to upvote the post(s), @shepz1?

If it is a bot issue (which it appears to me is the case) then it is hard to understand how you are suggesting it is a free speech issue.

Mind explaining?

No I do not mind at all. This post had no bidbot boost by me, it did have a $1 or so tipu via one of the commentators, yet it got voted to dust for having my own opinion on steemit. The post after received the same treatment, with zero bid bot use by me!. Thanks for the comment on the other post, hope you enjoy the rest of the vid.

Well that sucks. Countering all bot votes, so as to cancel them out, makes sense to me; yet punishing the account seems not only extreme but counter productive. It also sounds like a bot is being used in the process which is not only ironic but hypocritical to me.

Hopefully you can hang in there and let this latest cloud of dust settle. Your voice is an appreciated one to me.

That's this platforms whole problem....you guys decide who wins and who loses....in the end it will ultimately be Steemit that loses. Please do tell us all how much distortion of the rewards pool money have gone to the bimbo's waving a smile in people's faces?....the soldier account, last I looked was half way to dolphin....but that's perfectly okay to rip people's hard earn rewards away to give to a bunch of dimwits.

When you've been to a few Steemfests like her I'll consider you worthy of judging her. You seem a little obsessed. But what does my opinion matter to you?

Judge me as you wish. I don't give a shit. It's not like my few cents of vote or flag make much difference to anyone.

I'll keep voting up whatever I consider deserving. Not my own stuff of course.

Wish you the best for next year.

When you've been to a few Steemfests like her I'll consider you worthy of judging her.

I don't need to go to steemfest to see she's capable of cheating her way to the top nor to be granted the right to cheat her way to the top as, if one even needs to ask, is the bulk of people who attend steemfest.

You seem a little obsessed

Unfortunately you are not a woman whose opportunities in life where often quashed by those willing to cheat their way to the top then compete their way to the top. So yeah, call it an obsession, I'd call it being livid at the thought I spent ficken hours writing stuff on here playing by the rules then some bimbo comes along and can post pictures of girls with no content and make more than I can spending hours writing content. It's even more insulting when you find she cheats.

But what does my opinion matter to you?

Well if you have daughter(s) that will one day enter the work force then your opinion of this type of matter should be concerning to you.

You do realise 'halfway to dolphin' is not a big deal? It's not just about putting out posts. You need people engaging with them. It's not a perfect system (by a long way), but I've managed to build a following with a lot of effort. I see you get some prizes for engagement, but if it's all complaining Steem is unfair it may not win you many votes. You don't have to suck up to whales, but some may downvote negative attitudes. I don't generally downvote opinions.

I've been to several Steem events and seen @soldier there with her @Appix team. What she has earned is nothing next to what she must have spent on those and other trips.

I have a daughter who is not really into social media. There are general issues with girls getting obsessed with image, but that has always happened. The Appix stuff may remain a tiny part of Steem, but who knows?

Steem is still barely a blip on the Internet. There's still a chance to influence where it goes, but you have to work with others.

Wishing you all the best for next year.

Half way to dolphin in less than two, three months is no big deal?...tell that to everyone struggling to get there.

What she spent to get to steemfest and what she spent there has nothing at all to do with her being allowed to cheat her way to the top by posting pictures of mannequins, dolls, pictures imposed against backgrounds of places those people really aren't at, mixed of course with a few real people. It doesn't take a professional to see the photos are fake.

We aren't talking about girls and their images we are talking about girls who have no problem bumping other hard working girls out of their way to get to the top. So it's really insulting to every woman on here whose working hard to get ahead and you guys allow her to come on here with pictures with no content and say it's perfectly fine. You really think for one minute the majority of those woman whom she is posting pictures of are going to join steemit and write out post that have any content they've put considerable effort behind? No, they aren't, you are just fooling yourself.

You just remember in life that what comes around goes around. You encouraging such behavior only reinforces it. It's in every occupation and there's a reason for that, just look in the mirror.

What we do want is real curation.

Okay, that does it and you fully deserve it.

You are a fricken liar.

You two faced hypocrite. Just when is some picture post of a woman smiling saying HI! real curation? How many times do I have to catch you in a lie?

No this site is going nowhere, notta, because you pick and chose the winners and losers.

No one can use this tipu (and I see dozens of post that use it) (and I am not stupid and see something deeper going on in this instance that is none of my business more as it is yours...but since you've chose to use tipu as a means to handle it)...then, once again, I am calling out the hypocrisy as to why do the winners get to use tipu?

I'm not going to argue with you. You seemed educated and somewhat reasonable. Like you said everything is subjective.

When you group bully anyone for doing anything

What do you mean, group bully? There people following my DV trail but I didn't ask them too. In fact it makes me uncomfortable that they are doing so.

You have many other posts that have paid votes, but I will leave them be as I feel you have got the message. @tipu now curate and have a team looking for undervalued posts.

I for one, wish they would take the option away for paid votes, it would make it so much easier.

Despite what you think, I don't enjoy 'bullying' as you call it. I just want votes to be organic, deserved and up-voted for what they contain and not for the amount of paid votes they receive.

Why bother bantering?

He will never leave lol. He’s been trying to leave for ages.

Best to check if evil banks are still holding his money hostage.

He’s too rich to care he’ll be fine with the downvotes.

I think you two have some history I'm not parley too!

Nah. Not me. I’m making history right now.

It’s hilarious. I think it’s high time we meet this man who’s full of himself.

Yes I have a lot of money, watch what happens next!

Please! Been waiting for that display of exorbitant wealth.

@freedom feels lonely.

What you want a picture, or is a selfie ok?

Both will get you four dollar fifty cent....just go look at the soldier account, then call them out for their hypocrisy of what constitute "value" and "worth" on here.

Your name is like a bad joke, I can see why you enjoy negativity, you thrive on it do you not, enforcer lol, what a bad joke!

Took you almost 2 years to notice that?

Ok Boomer.

I already know who you are, are you angry with me because YOU chose to buy my account, on a ship you are all sailing with negativity? You know, you get what YOU deserve in life, suck it up and enjoy it!

Am I supposed to be offended by boomer?

It's okay. Don't worry about it.

Your actions stand, as do mine, though mine was more giving, yours is full of negativity. and that is what will kill this place, the negativity!.

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