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RE: Up Next: The Collapse of the Food Supply Chain

in #food4 years ago

Instead of taking a cheap shot at vegans, this would have been a good opportunity for James to up his intellectual honesty game. Sadly, he missed once again.

James, the food shortage could be solved TODAY if people stopped feeding grain to "meat animals", raised mainly in crowded factory farms to save resources, raped, tortured, and slaughtered for their body parts. The land can be used to grow grain to feed humans, cutting out the entire animal agriculture industry. Humans don't need anything at all from animals in order to be healthy. NOTHING. We torture and kill and enslave their species only for the taste and tradition, nothing else.

You mention hunger and famine coming, but not the easy solution. Instead, you mention veganism as an insult.

You even missed an opportunity to speak truth, something you claim to believe in. James, be honest with your readers! Hunger could be solved immediately.

And why not mention Liberty, too? Who deserves it? Only humans? Should it not be for all sentient beings that want it? What harm have they done to us, that we should enslave their species, cage them, steal their babies, and kill them for products we don't need and are generally unhealthy for us?

James, wake up.

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This engineered famine can not be solved immediately. Monsanto have the monopoly of the GMO seed supply that feeds billions through processed food and animal feed. This seed supply will go off line with no instant replacement. Its the plan. In a Grand Solar Minimum a revolution in agriculture will be impossible to organise in time to replace the worlds food, let alone in a scenario when the break down in the just in time system fails on global delivery. The next two winters will be the challenge for humanity, especially in cities. Prepare now! Don't eat your neighbours later.

Now is not the time to fight among the troops. There will be enough of that in the coming days and weeks elsewhere. None of that fighting will be necessary if people would take the extra time they have on their hands to talk to their neighbors about what can be done. Like starting a community garden for example so everyone in that neighborhood has the food they need. This has already been done in cities and backyards, so it can be done. Now is the time to begin. It's growing season for heaven sakes.

All of this nonsense would vanish IF people decide to let the Gates in this world know they aren't going to have any of this BS.

I'm reminding people they don't need to fight over flesh in order to get the nutrients they need to be healthy. I'm saving the lives of sentient, feeling, loving beings who don't want to be killed. I'm advocating peace for all. If you see it as fighting among the troops, maybe that's on you? My message is that through peace and non-violence, we can all obtain plenty of food, instead of competing for it. This helps us humans, and billions of intelligent non-human individuals as well.

I somewhat agree with you. Yes, what humans do to animals is horrible and totally immoral.

But where did he insult vegans exactly? He is right in so far that the forced waiver of meat consumption is not because people had some kind of enlightenment but because there will be less / no more meat.
Nothong more, nothing less. Chill out a bit. You dont reach people by acting semi-hysterical.

What didn't you understand? It's not hysterical at all. If you have any criticism about what I said, please bring it forth.

Instead of admitting that veganism is a perfect solution to the problem, James used the opportunity to slight his vegan readers. His bias (as a meat eater) determines his stance here. His lack of intellectual honesty on this issue draws into question all his other work, which is unfortunate, as I've been recommending it to my audience for a decade now.

Yes veganism would be a perfect solution - if it was voluntary. You're trying to cure the symptoms, not the disease.
If you want people to live vegan, you have to convince them, not force them. Forcing people to do X is highly immoral and only works short-term.
And that's exactly why people despise vegans. Not because they made a choice to not eat meat anymore (which is great btw), but more because they're acting all pissed off from their high moral horse instead of trying to convince meat-eaters to come to the other side with a POSITIVE attitude - hence the joke from Corbett.

I understand your message and I agree with you. But if you want people to change, you need a better way of delivering it. Making people LOVE to be a vegan is better than making people HATE themselves for eating meat.

Don't be ridiculous. I'm not surprised you didn't post that under your normal account.

People aren't going to make a life-altering decision that changes literally everything about their thinking and behaviour based on anything I say or don't say. If they're that superficial and fickle, shame on them. If not enslaving, raping, and murdering other sentient beings isn't motivation enough, online comments aren't going to be, either.

People with that attitude are just looking for yet another excuse to continue to harm innocent conscious creatures for their own pleasure. "That vegan should have acted a different way, and then I'd be a moral person, but he went about it all wrong, so I'm going to carry on being a de facto murderer, rapist, and slave owner."

Also, I never said I was trying to convince anyone of anything. You're assuming that and couldn't be more wrong.

lol this is my normal account, I just started using it after I forgot about Steemit when the '18 bubble burst.

Yes, people make life-altering decisions when Government forces them to (talk about murdering and enslaving other sentient beings, huh), but that is short-sighted and usually ends up in the opposite direction. REAL change comes from within. And if you want to see real change, you need to change people's minds. Don't wait for some magical thing to happen, do it yourself. Be it a Youtube channel, a Blog, a Website, a Forum, handouts in your local shopping mall, whatever.

But your solution is to force people to be "moral" instead of trying to actually convince them with a positive attitude. I guess we have nothing more to discuss then.

I dont see where he took a shot at vegans...point it out please.Maybe he was ill informed about the Impossible burger wich isnt lab grown but is plant based...ok made in an industrial setting but still...a step in the right direction.Havent tasted it yet but i had the A&W Beyond Burger and its very good!Would fool a carnie! Been plant based for over 2 years now and never going back

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