Discussion on “Chemtrails” and the impossibility of Particulate being Added to ATK (Jet Fuel) Take 2

in #geoengineering7 years ago

Discussion on “Chemtrails” and the impossibility of Particulate being Added to ATK (Jet Fuel) Take 2

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Had to record this as the livestream got jacked up by ThemTube or AT&T don’t know which. I went over my take on the Geo Engineering Solar Radiation Management programs.

I believe they are made by Military aircraft at extremely high altitudes, that let out particulate that then falls into the commerical flight patterns and comes out the back end of the engine mixed with air to create the "chemtrails". This grants them plausible deniability while also utilizing the existing flight patterns to conduct their operation, which would save a significant amount of money.

I work with ATK jet fuel everyday, I am in the meetings where the regulations are passed and the tests are created to determine "what is jet fuel". Based on working with ATK, knowing how it is so highly controlled. I can assure you that there is NOTHING being added to the fuel to create "aluminum based chem trails". If they were adding that to the fuel the OEM's would freak right the f out, and companies like mine that measure conductivity would be seeing really strange and really high conductivity in fuel, which is not happening.

Even Bio fuel is a "contaminant" in Jet Fuel, FAME it is called, so that is how highly controlled Jet Fuel is, there is nothing in it, you can create ATK by clay filtering the crap out of farm grade kerosene. It certainly does not have added particulate in it to create chemtrails.

Chem trails are 100% real, but let's be accurate about reporting on how they are being made. The commercial planes seems to be oblivious to them, and I have never seen any proof that the commerical airlines are involved other than being used to create the chemtrails just by flying through the particulate being dropped at a higher altitude.

Two videos to watch for more proof:

  1. High Bypass Turbine engines by GeoEngineering Watch Dane Wiggington:

  1. True Story of Artificial Clouds:

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So interesting and amazing theme .
I really like it .

Thanks for sharing @titusfrost
Upvote you .

We know they're doing it, and they're also starting the process to normalize it...the most important thing is akcnowledging this and know WHY they're doing it (the real reason they're doing it, not the fake reason they will give us, that is to "save the world from climate change"). Focusing too much on the technical aspects will create endless debate and bickering, like with 9/11, etc. At least that's my opinion.

Yeah maybe. We know, but the mainstream people still do not. I made this video because mainstream people were arguing it out over twitter about these programs even existing. So I think we may know, but the "we" is actually a smaller minority than you think.

Yes, unfortunately I'm aware that "we" are a very small minority...convincing "mainstreams" is quite tough if not impossible on every so called conspiratorial subject, so kudos for attempting that, absolutely! Just wanted to warn about the risk of it becoming a pure technical debate, like we saw for 9/11 and other things, if you know what I mean.

I have believed for a long time that this was real I just didn't know exactly how they were doing it.

This is THE best explanation I have ever heard! It fills in several holes and answers a lot of questions!

I have also been seeing the normalization. I also agree with the problem of focusing too much on technical debates, it just makes people's eyes glaze over and ignore the whole thing.

So let's give them some information that they can see for themselves and understand.

"Proof" for the disbelievers. Recorded history. You can see in old TV shows that this phenomenon did not exist back in the early 1980s. Watch the skies and you can see the contrails are never very long. The first TV show that I started watching forensicly was "The A-Team". It's a corny 80's show with very low production quality but because of that low-quality they ended up recordeing a lot of ambient information. See for yourself, contrails didn't used to act this way.

So let's give them some information that they can see for themselves and understand.

Absolutely.

Definitely not the best explanation I ever heard.
https://climateviewer.com/cirruscloudsmatter/
https://climateviewer.com/2017/07/25/cirruscloudsmatter-geoengineering-with-cirrus-cloud-seeding/
https://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=YO3JHAaBxSU&list=PLfN7m5OaSZKTe5O7etn9N8zeQOjep3nKk (chemtrails from space playlist)

Normalization is definitely going on. Here in Germany just recently a "scientist guy" (maybe comparable a bit with Bill Nye but he doesn't do the hype and weirdness) posted on youtube about scientists developing now the "idea" of a specific type of geoengineering alluding to Trumps "wall".

Haha I love the ThemTube reference, might have to start using that one.

Interesting, I don’t know enough about the process but then dropping it in the air to then be spun by the jets unbeknownst to them certainly seems plausible for the ever important deniability.

Yeah, that is how they do it. So they make it look like the commercial guys but it ain't them it's the military and black ops.

I don't think it helps reaching "geoengineering-deniers" aka normies talking about (mysterious) black ops.
Just because you (we) don't know the exact way something happens, doesn't mean it (e.g. research or weather modification programs) is not publicly accessible. And additionally, large parts of which are not available on the internet yet, can't be made available via requests by phone calls and mails to specific governmental institutions and FOIAAs (which people like Jim Lee have done and continue to do).
For example a register of more than 100 pages with several entries on each page about weather modification projects worldwide for just one year, is a good start, isn't it?


Or knowing, who, often by name is involved in weather modification projects, isn't too bad, either, or?

I have never smeared people talking about chemtrails but have remained a very long time unconvinced because of the poor job of explanation people have done trying to "warn" me about chemtrails, HAARP and so on. The fear-mongering didn't help, neither did a habit of talking about black-ops.
Use the words you want. Just be reminded, in a world of brainwashed people it might be very difficult and essential which words to use to blow away their fog and clouds in their minds.

This also answered one of my long-standing questions. "How does it start and stop?" If it was mixed in with the fuel it would be there from takeoff to Landing.

In my area I see the chemtrails only over the populated Metro areas so I was wondering if there was some kind of meteorological phenomenon (heat) that caused the chemtrails to only exist over the "Concrete Jungle".

Thanks for the input; I see it in the metro area of Boston as well as in the suburbs and even into New Hampshire but not too far up. It would make sense it only occurs in certain areas.
What I’ve noticed however is there are some planes I’ve seen that do laps in the sky; they go up one way and down or go straight then take an abrupt turn. Just strange maneuvers for regular planes to do.

Hahaha that's really funny!!!.....

Copy+paste my comment from the Dtube version of this article, to bring to your attention.
I discovered the work of Jim Lee some weeks ago and am since then, constantly reading up. He might deliver what you search for on his websites climateviewer . org (a 3D map with everything you can think of), climateviewer . com and weathermodificationhistory . com (as well as his youtube-channel under the name Jim Lee).

https://climateviewer.com/2015/03/15/aluminum-barium-and-chemtrails-explained-just-the-facts/

"During the “Single Fuel Concept” conversion from 1988-1996, all NATO aircraft switched from gasoline based fuel (JP-5) to kerosene (diesel) fuel (JP-8) the aluminum content of the fuels tripled." below then the table which he has from here: http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA396143
Edit: e.g. Aluminium from ND to 2000 to 9000 ppb, Barium 3 to 9 to 38 ppb Calcium from 500 to 5000 to 31000 ppb etc.
Edit2: Also this is an older article from 2015, some sources have been pulled and he needs to update it. Usually he gives you the archive links then. Most links work just fine though.