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RE: What happens when someone with Alzheimers stops all prescriptions, and takes only cannabis oil for 3.5 months? ๐Ÿ’Š vs ๐ŸŒฟ

in #health โ€ข 7 years ago

Wao nice history im about to try it for my gtand

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Super glad to hear that, @geral! Hey, it'd be great if you shared changes you see. Lil saw significant changes by just the THIRD WEEK!

Indeed. I'd be interested in knowing that too.
Let us know.

Just to be clear, this is CBD without THC, correct?

@ventingplswait, it's full spectrum, so includes THC.

THC is what breaks up the brain plaque, so CBD-only formulas are nowhere near as effective for managing Alzheimers.

Eh. This video is sketchy.

How so, @ventingplswait? And a 100% downvote?! What do you stand for??

To start, your entire argument is fallacious at best.

-Appeal to emotion.
-Trying to use anecdotal evidence as an argument.

There is absolutely nothing in this post or video to support your argument that isn't a fallacy.
I see someone who claims to be the wife of an Alzheimer patient. Where is the patient?
I see her talking about his emotional distress and how the oil helped his depression and anxiety. Which is great.... but not an argument for THC breaking up amyloid plaques. It is, however, an argument for CBD helping with anxiety which HAS been proven as a use for CBD (along with alleviation of nerve pain in cancer and neuralgia patients).

I also hear her call her husband, who is suffering, a pain in the ass. This bothers me greatly since I had to deal with an elderly parent in the late stages their life deal with dementia.

If THC breaks up the amyloid plaques, show SOMETHING that supports your argument. The wife said nothing about how her husbands dementia was improved. Just his quality of life due to the easing of his emotional distress, which is great, but that's not what you're trying to show here.

Also, correlation is not causation. So, you take someone off the medications that are meant to treat Alzheimers and something changes in their demeanor. This could entail any number of things, from the possibility of the patient being misdiagnosed as having Alzheimers when they actually have a completely different form of dementia, if it's dementia at all and not something completely unrelated in a physiological sense like hydrocephalus, to the patient having a negative reaction to that particular medication or combination a meds.

So, to your second question "What do you stand for??":

I'll go with the moniker of libertarian for simplicity's sake. That being said, in regards to cannabis legalization and regulation by the government, I feel like it isn't something the government should be involved in to begin with. However, when you don't want an overbearing state entity to regulate everything in life, there is a need for everyone to do their due diligence, to develop values that are compatible with that way of life in addition to virtuous attributes, such as honesty to one's self and others.

For the interests of keeping this relatively short, because I could probably go on, I'll make this my closing statement... if you believe in pushing for the exploration of cannabis as a treatment for something such as this, you should probably do the work to present a bit of a better argument than what you have presented because all I see right now is a really weak video with no real evidence in an attempt to manipulate people's emotions in order to upvote your post (which they are most likely doing so you either follow them back or upvote their comments) along with a BTC donation address being plopped down in addition to a Patreon link.

Should I keep going, or do you understand why I don't feel obligated to upvote your post nor should I feel obligated to refrain from downvoting it?

The interview isn't meant to discuss molecular bioavailability and comparative amyloid plaque removal efficacy rates. It was meant to allow a caregiver to share her personal story regarding a loved one who was suffering from the disease and was helped by the treatment. It did so in a moving way.

If you want to understand the biochemistry of it, search medical journals. There are more than a few examples. Here is a good one, specifically addressing amyloid plaque reduction by THC:

A Molecular Link between the Active Component of Marijuana and Alzheimer's Disease Pathology

Hey, @olyup! THANKS for understanding the pure motive behind this video, and also for sharing that helpful link. I value your contribution! ๐ŸŒฟ

Thank you! The Salk Institute has an article on the same topic aimed at more general audience: https://www.salk.edu/news-release/cannabinoids-remove-plaque-forming-alzheimers-proteins-from-brain-cells/

Reading the actual research paper is probably a little dry for most people!

Excellent resource, @olyup! Thanks very much for strengthening this post by adding it. ๐Ÿ˜Š

This piece is presented as anecdote & personal point of view. It's a story of a real person's actual experience moderated by someone who clearly has knowedge, experience, and opinions on the topic. The author makes no claim to providing the level of completeness & scientific rigor you're requesting. She's been gracious & responsive to the conversations here. We should encourage these activities.

Thanks, @extroverting! ๐Ÿ’š

@ventingplswait: To start, this is not an argument, but a sharing. This is TWO HUMAN LIVES... the quality of which, have been improved.

A fallacy is "a mistaken belief, especially one based on unsound argument." The fallacy that this video exposes is that cannabis is a harmful substance, with no healing benefit.

Evidence about THC's effect on Alzheimers plaque can be seen here: https://www.popsci.com/marijuana-compound-removes-alzheimers-plaque-from-brain-cells-study

And as for Lil's very human comment... you needn't worry about the unending love he receives. Most full-time caregivers and mothers will completely understand the innocent exasperation that was behind that comment.

I agree that more details, specifics and certainly a showing of Ken himself will only strengthen our sharing. We will do all those things in the near future.