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RE: Hardfork 21 is HAPPENING. What will change?
and because the Witnesses are ultimately accountable to Steem’s stakeholders, the odds are maximized toward only positive changes being made
Laughable, at best.
We expect posts that would make more than 20 STEEM under the old rules to earn more after the changes. Those posts that would have made less than 20 STEEM under the old rules will receive less after the changes.
Well, if you needed a FU newbs, here ya go.
Unless the whales step up it looks like a curtain call to me!
See ya on broadway!
That means you will be rewarded significantly more for curating content after the fork.
Yea! My .002 is is going to .004!
Props for the honesty, stinc.
That took backbone.
🔥🔥🔥
!dramatoken
As an added bonus, here's a GIF I just made in honor of this most glorious fork.
So, what if our whale overlords have decided the crumbs that fall from their tables should be a bit smaller?
At least we are getting crumbs! We collect them over time and we just might have enough for a WHOLE SLICE OF BREAD.
Maybe over a year or so we will have a whole loaf! 😋
Now that's a lot of CALORIES! 🍞
So, what if it's a little moldy by then. That's just EXTRA FLAVOR!
Don't be ungrateful, @freebornangel! Fall back in line, citizen! 👮
If you want the dolphins and whales to enjoy steem more and maybe BUY MORE steem, we MIGHT need this :) Imagine the dolphins who benefit get excited enough from these changes to buy more steem, the price of steem goes up and all of our rewards go up to new levels, levels that we may never have gotten to without these changes
Doesn't look like it. Looks more like they started selling when they read the HF21 paper.
Should have done so as well. Silly me.
I have been but with much trepidation which is prudent imo.
As long as the bid bot owners as well as founder circle jerk circles hijack inflation without proof-of-brain it is risky.
Perhaps, the technical changes w the fork may assuage my concerns but I am one to suppose the problem tends to be more a matter of culture and lack of decisive leadership from the large stakeholders up until this point.
I appreciate your enthusiasm but in my line of work here exposes me to some shady things. Things that don't imbue me with confidence.
Don't get me wrong. Steem has countless redeeming qualities but make no mistake. There is a cancer and we are gearing up for a slightly more aggressive yet unfocused treatment.
If StInc would take a hard stance against vote selling collusion and impenitent token manipulators, I think the prognosis would be much better. They could always delegate that responsibility to @steemflagrewards. 🙃
Time will tell.
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How about all of us buying some Steem?
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Just bought more Steem to upvote you. I'm am altruistic idiot. 🤪
Perhaps, one day dogs like us will have our day.... Without a hard fork.
But I am keeping that on the table if treachery becomes so pervasive that there is no other reasonable option.
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Sir, yes sir!
The recruit will fall back into line and make due with his fortunate position in the crumb line!
Just keep that lobster under control!
Such drama, you've earned a DRAMA!
To view or trade
DRAMAgo to steem-engine.com.:) I like the Drama Token...haha
They def. earned some! ;)
It has absolutely nothing to do with newbs, it is about posts being rewarded more than 20 steem which has nothing to do with newbs.
Sublinear.
Exponentially.
Yeah, so after I pointed out that your FUD about newbs was bullshit you come back with non sequitur response.
Lol,...
I've had several discussions with you regarding not only how (read: not why) we got to this point, but also these proposals and so when I see your bullshit about "they said the rich get richer" or "screw the newbs" it's satisfying to call it out knowing that we both know how full of shit you are. You lately respond to being called out with more nonsense/bullshit and/or snickering, for whatever reason, showing me that you
Have
Been
Reduced.
I've effectively countered your nonsense, and while you've had numerous opportunities to respond in a thoughtful manner you foolishly hunker down behind the same sentiment of "development is shit and stakeholders are worse" with your snickering and petulant nonsense and you're completely convinced it seems, that by slandering either the community/stakeholders or the development (which is one and the same as far as I'm concerned) you are holding their toes to the fire, but what I see you do is neither holding their toes to the fire or honoring the principles behind such, like accountability, which comes chiefly from integrity, so it simply is slanderous nonsense and its mostly to castigate it seems, and you think steemit/whales as responsible and you think you're holding them accountable but you are not accountable or responsible for what you claim even, a burden that is considered so cursory it ought never to be evaded, but that doesn't mean you don't have very high standards of others and think you deserve to lecture them on principles like integrity and responsibility.
Cut the bullshit already, what are you trying to do, because it seems like thousands of failuires later you're trying the exact same thing/still sticking to the script, but now you have me in the mix though, taking every single opportunity (and sometimes tripling it) to make sure that I exemplify the way to respond to bullshit. I'll let you know when it's over.
Lol, give me hell, baah!
I'm just trying to understand the math.
You don't have to appreciate my methods.
Nor do you have to agree that when somebody makes changes that were known to be flawed doubles down on those changes I should double down on my contentious resistance to said changes.
If you remember correctly, steemit was on the soon to be deprecated list not that long ago.
As for the shadow banning, there is only one way to prove what I said, and I'm betting it's only a matter of time until I find more broken links.
I will be sure to tag you when I do.
Good one, is that why you're asking instead of stating?
Cut the crap. Methods aren't unsubstantiated slanderous nonsense.
What changes exactly? That's what I fucking thought, vague nonsense.
Which list? Who's list?
Broken links don't mean shit. You think that the simplest explanation for a broken link is a massive conspiracy to "shadowban" you, because when you regard unadulterated slander as a methodology of operating then the simplest explanation is the most insane and idiocy ridden one.
The people in ‘power’ do not call it that way, but Sadowbanning/blocking is indeed happening sometimes on steemit (not on the steem blockchain). I even have one “true example” for you. Remember, About half a year ago, when that hackergroup (the dark overlord) came out on social media, and demended to be paid in btc for the real truth about what happened at 911???
Well, .... Those guys & girls also posted on steemit, and they got kicked off, blocked/ shadowbanned of steemit, but you could still find their posts on the steem blockchain.
I remember @aggroed wrote a mad post about it, concluding that ...
“The steem blockchain is censorship proof
the steemit.com interface is not
the steemit blockchain isn't a thing that exists“
https://steemit.com/steem/@aggroed/a-note-about-thedarkoverlord-and-censorship-on-steem-it
I've been informed there was a bug.
The timing is close.
Time will tell.
As for the rest, we've already determined I'm a loon, so I should never be taken at face value.
Caveat emptor.
Dyor.
You missed the other half:
What are you talking about? Does that mean that it has absolutely anything to do with "newbs", because you just exemplified how to completely miss the other person's point, point being that the quote is not referring at all to new users.
Fuck it's painful to watch the idiotic nonsense that leaves people's mouths like a bad habit before they consider what they read or even what they said.
The new payout rules have absolutely something to do with discouraging new users. You just choose to not see it.
Have to disagree with you on a number of points. But firstly I have said before I would like the changes to have gone further, maybe 10/90 split. The truth is the vast majority of users will never earn by posting, however they can continue to do so in the hope a post goes viral. When most of the upvotes are worth practically nothing anyway, we need a way for those accounts to grow enough so their vote counts, yes the rewards to authors will hit their earnings but if the votes they get are worth more it should compensate for the loss in earnings.
You need some way in my view to distribute Steem to the lesser accounts and then in turn they will distribute it back. You can't prevent some of this being sold but good Curation incentives should be enough to curtail that. What is certain is that the current model isn't working and with the ability to just earn by delegating to bots it just plays into the hands of those with the most Steem.
Another problem is the bad image it presents that you just sign up with a Steem account and the $$$ just pour in, that doesn't help in the long run. Also there is much more to do than just post and upvote so the focus needs to be getting users to get Steem and Power Up. There are vastly more users who will benefit from Curation rewards than will ever benefit from Post rewards. The problem though is this doesn't fix the other problem, that is getting users to manually upvote original content and stop them delegating to bidbots. If you could fix that aspect as well then I think you would have a better Steem eco system.
But like someone above said its also not about how many rewards you get its about how much those rewards are worth so the focus must be on increasing the token value, I think there is enough going on in Steem to attract new users so I am confident this won't have such a bad effect on that as you believe.
I'm not actually all that much bothered about the 50/50 Split. The decrease in income for postings under 20 Steem bothers me.
And that will hit both small authors and curators. And the amount of posts is already falling:
As is the amount of votes:
As is the value of steem itself. Note that I did buy steem and powered up in the past. But I don't see a point in it any more.
My suspicion: The dolphin to wales have all the steem they want and smaller accounts are disillusioned and don't want to invest.
As for a 10/90 split: Why not go all the way and do 0/100 split like @dtube? We'll see how that will work's out. It's worth a try.
You just choose not to point out in no uncertain way how that limit has anything to do with new users, so I'll just continue to point out that the curve does not have anything to do with new users, it's entirely about posts, not users.
If you like pointless nitpicking then go ahead.
But I have a question for you: Who makes those postings? And who curates those postings?
Hint: They are macroscopic so they don't pop into existence out of the quantum foam.
There's nothing pointless or nitpicky about what I said. Here I'll repeat it again because I like reiterating what you attempted to mitigate to "pointless nitpicking" as:
A curve for posts has ABSOLUTELY no-thing to do with new users.
Do your best to marginalize, change the topic or any thing to that effect.
You did not answer my question:
Who makes those postings? And who curates those postings?
50% curation reward and the #NewSteem campaign might change all this.. Or else why are all even here..
Yes, if the whales step up and put an end to the abuse it might be worth hanging out, but if they chase off most of the people, what are we doing here?
We already can't get many views as it is.