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RE: We Neutralized an Existential Threat, But Exposed A Threat to The Individual

in Steem Think Tank4 years ago

Yes a line was crossed, There is really no good way out of this. If you keep him from accessing his stake he will probably attack legally and he has enough funds to have the edge and anyway he at least has to have his money back, and if they reach an agreement we will see that all was just a move by big accounts and top witnesses to protect themselves because they will in reality be agreeing that Justin keep what is in fact stolen property. Do you see any way out of this?

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theycalmedan said in his video that there is some legal mambo jambo if Steemit used it for voting on witnesses. they mined it so steem would not be Security (not really sure how that works), they used a loophole and by voting could get in trouble. Not sure how that works, and what would happen if justin voted.
Out from this is easy if justin was not lying. He will make a contract that the stake will not be used to vote and influence witnesses, and we all live happily ever after. maybe.

The thing I see now is that they would be letting him use something that is illegal (the ninja mined stake) that would about kill the witnesses reputation.
Apart from which I am pretty sure @freedom ninja mined too.

it is not about ninja mined steem per se. steemit had an unfair advantage in that mining so they got shit ton more than others (there was also a restart at day one or two because some problems, and some speculate that steemit had some problems with mining so they did not do as well as they thought. not confirmed). and they said it will not be used for voting and influencing witnesses.

The problem is that that is the excuse being put out that the ninja mined stake is stolen, that is what is used to get users behind this soft fork, but that means Justin bought stolen property, how can you reach a deal with someone who is known to be the owner of stolen property? Seems unethical to me.

well i feel that the main point in this was not stolen (it was mined in a bit shady conditions and therefore promised to be used for development and so) , it is misused.

Well we shall see, but actually what I have read is that it is considered to be stolen.

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