RE: POLL: Are Communities Outdated?
Looking at communities in general, I feel most are just overated. Since they all know them selves, we know how their post get higher votes from others.
As a new user you are left on your own to figure out how things work in some communities you pick interest. And there no a support or reward to motivate the new comers to keep writing. That's why you see after two or three days. If a new comer does see reward on his or her post they tend to be discouraged and which they finally back out.
I was actually happy when I saw a particular community willing to organize a weekly competition for writers in which it will encourage writers to write consistently daily and also comment on other people's writing but as you can tell it didn't happen.
I.was going through a particular community and I saw a task I could participate, as a new comer I joined, I did my best in making sure what I did was the best, but as you can tell the old members as usual got the higher price while I got it low even when I felt my write was much more better than Few other... I was kind of discouraged though.
For me I feel new comers and also every other persons should be carried along in a community not only the old members doing their thing like as if the new comers are suppose to be here in the first place.
Actually, there is a Steem Curator team for newcomers since month and for even longer newcomers are guided and given advice.
Many opinions are shared about this fact and it is discussed which are the most loyal Steemians or if you like 'thebdie hards'.
Unfortunately these are not the Steemians who received high upvotes as a newcomer and been helped. They took the money and ran withoutbglreturninf the support. Literally everyone being longer and known figured it out alone and most did it without a single vote during the first period from one month up to years.
So question is: why did they join? How come they did not understand PoB, what made them believe others would find their post among thousands of others?
Dit they read the Steemit FAQ? If yes, did they understand they are on their own and there's no one to help them out?
This might sound bitter but is the truth. Only by connection to others, commenting and asking the way it is possible to know the answers to the questions.
That is how I figured it out and sooner or later I always someone willing to explain.
As a newcomer you also have a commitment to the other members and you cannot expect those being longer around the pull the entire carriage one handed. They also started at zero.
If it comes to the prizes if contests I noticed the same. A good reason for me to no longer join. In my case because the winners were always selected among the own country fellows.
Everything you bring up here if it comes to newcomers has been discussed since years and the worst that happened was bringing in new members with false promises like: you post and earn a fat upvote.
Yeah...I practically understand now. Even with your last sentence were you said new members are given the false promises: you post and earn a fat votes. Actually I noticed some newcomers are no longer active as before.
Yes, and that exactly is the problem. They do not care. Are not willing to figure out how it works, will not invest in connections.
So lifting them is a waste of votes which can be given to others always neglected.
But I was just thinking....can there be a place as an instructions been placed in which newcomer can know what to post on a particular community and also know their limits?
Te entiendo, porque creo que en algún momento todos llegamos a vivir la etapa de recién llegados. Acá los inicios son difíciles, entre otras cosas, porque existen muchos bots, y a veces se cree que un "nuevo usuario" podría ser un potencial robots. Es el tiempo, la constancia y la dedicación los que van marcando la diferencia. Yo lo veo así: "Ves a alguien por primera vez, y aunque la persona te agrade de buenas a primeras, no sueles "abrirle tu corazón" inmediatamente. Esas relaciones afectivas, de apoyo, de lectura y comentarios se consolidan en el tiempo.
Lo más importante es tratar de relacionarte con personas de distintos lugares del mundo que sean afines a tu manera de ser y de pensar. Un abrazo.
I understand, because I think we all go through that newcomer phase at some point. Starting out here is difficult, partly because there are so many bots, and sometimes people think a "new user" might be a potential bot. It's time, consistency, and dedication that make all the difference. I see it this way: "You see someone for the first time, and even if you like them right away, you don't usually 'open your heart' to them immediately. Those relationships—the affection, the support, the reading, and the comments—are built over time."
The most important thing is to try to connect with people from different parts of the world who are like-minded and share your way of thinking. Hugs.
Honestly I have actually learned a lot through this poll. This is actually my first hearing about bot here on steemit, although I actually know about the ones on telegram and the rest. We learn everyday actually. Thank you very much friend 🤝🏾
Yes. This place is wonderful if you see it as a space for learning and interacting with people from around the world. Sending you a big hug from Venezuela.
Bots are everywhere. Customer service, schools, and this morning they said in the news insurances have to deal with AI used by customers sending fake bills and asking money from them. The good news is that those using AI are noticed unlike what users believe. The same counts for those using AI here.
Yeah. I even wanted to speak about the use of AI here. You look at how contest are been organized here, but users makes use of AI to create pictures to present a better font or those using AI pictures to talk about a particular topic. I honestly feel things ought to be real. I guess without AI, there was Alternatives in presenting things.
I remember the time we mainly posted without pictures and that went great, next it was "use a photo" to be noticed among the test. The truth is most first photos suck.
After that it was Canva. Check the feed and see underneath many photos: made by Canva or: source blah blah.
What type of opening sentence is that?
Now it is AI although about one year ago it wasn't liked and even fought.
Personally, I do not care if the text is good, but if it comes to it Is prefer to read without photos or pictures which have rarely something to do with the text. I even find it disturbing to read text like these.
I agree with you that all those AI generated pictures and text are overwhelming and make this platform less interesting to scroll through since it is this, diaries title after title or automated gaming reports.
I do understand there are not able to take and upload good photos and the problem is that also sites with free to use photos like Pixabay.com provides in AI generated pictures.
If it comes to me the magic of AI became close to annoying. Many times it is wrong and taken for the truth.
You know in the community Italy was a contest where we used the same prompt and an AI of our choice to generate a picture. In the post you had to describe how you did. Interesting was the different pictures shown and the lack of creativity and possibilities of AI. It was nice testing this out but that was it.
The only way to change the flood of AI photos and be noticed is by using your own photos or... nothing.
Btw, All this has been discussed many times but I guess the lazy ones decide and will be hard to instruct. Their reply will be: thank you, next time I will.
That next time will never arrive. We have been there too.
I assume a change might come and stay if the upvotes are 0 and remain zero.
Enjoy your Monday.
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I am glad I am actually learning something more than just writing alone here...thank you very much 🤝🏾
It's my pleasure. If you like to know more have a look at all the collected posts in the community SCB Monkey Business @hive-152479
I am not sure what you mean by "communities and getting higher upvotes". There was a time this was the payment for the contests and the payment for being a moderator, which takes a lot of time, that is if you read every post, check it for plagiarism, AI use, have to check all posts in the account of the author, scroll back to his very first post, check his comments so compare writing style and and and ...
If it comes to the member: they are also part of the community. Without members there is no community.
The question is why a vote is given.
For good content? For being loyal? For delegating all SP? For being a moderator? To be able to pay prizes for contests? (Do they still exist or are most gone since many hosts only had (several) because they had never to pay it from their own wallet?)
I just checked several newcomers being supported, I delegated SP to during a project to help newcomers, the SC curator team voted for and even gave booming votes to trash content to help those newcomers grow. I can tell you it does not motivate them to come back, not even to improve or say "thank you". Most of them already know the tricks since they are introduced by the same person. No upvote is big enough to make lazy one, the one who doesn't like to write or a scammer improve. Let alone being loyal. They go where they believe the money flows. Giving up items back is also not in it.
I still agree with the one who said that those being thrown into the deep and had to figure it out on their own are the better ones, more committed and more willing to comment, upvote and reply.
Look at yourself. You not even read and reply what I wrote to you as SC09...
Please can you tag me to it again? I was currently busy with several activities on my hand , please don't be offended.
Just look in your account underneath comments. It should show if youbdidn't reply or follow the thread above this one to read all the comments.