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RE: Uncertainty for delegated applications and services
If Steemcleaners lost its delegation it would be a true forward step in decentralization. I hate downvotes, but at least downvotes from a real invested person comes out of their limited power. Downvote power was never suppose to be so concentrated into such a small amount of accounts for downvoting.
True decentralization of the voting system involves downvotes being a bottom-up system and not a top-down one. That's called tyranny.
No, but without the EIP incentives, people wouldn't downvote at all, as we saw for the first three and a half years. However, most people use their downvotes in a very narrow area, whereas Steemcleaners seek out the abuse that is designed to hide out of sight from the normal users. While people want the reward pool to go to real contributors, including themselves, most people aren't interested fighting the abuse themselves. You for example flagged this post for whatever reason you chose to, instead of looking for plagiarism - This is the behavior of the average person.
I downvoted it out of no issue with you, but being that I strongly disagree with you on this I'd prefer it not trending.
I understand your argument, its a fair argument. But the problem with giving people power is that, historically, they abuse it. This is why I believe downvote power should not be concentrated by allowed to be whatever it will.
Do you hate that bible youtube spammer? Me too. That's why while I generally do not downvote people, when I saw one of the bots spam comments was going to get $0.05 I made sure it didn't.
We need to police in a decentralized fashion and if people don't care about an issue enough to downvote it, then nothing needs to be done about it. That's what we're all on blockchains for!
As said, this is the behavior of the average person, downvoting based on the opinion of the topic. I am not complaining about the downvote, it was just an example of what people do.
Downvote power isn't concentrated, everyone has it - this is what the EIP has incentivized even further. Previously, it was only the Steemcleaners group that would downvote without having to worry about the "cost" to their rewards, as that was their job. After the EIP, everyone gets the power to downvote - few do.
There used to be a circle of abuse from one account with 8000 socks all over the chain... most people don't even know about it, like much of the abuse on the platform. Not seeing it doesn't mean it doesn't need to be dealt with - like most forms of pollution, much of the abuse is invisible to the naked eye.
No one here is going to use their own SP to combat spam, come on. This is steem, people use their votes for voting up themselves and their friends. No one is going to use their vote power for the good of community. If those delegations go away spam is going to take over, big time
Well, everyone has 2.5 free downvotes thanks to the EIP, perhaps they should start learning where to use them :)
Generalisations are usually false. I and many others downvoted before we could do so for free because we care about Steem. I also don't vote purely for curation rewards for the same reason.