It's not Koreans vs the rest of us...It should be us, united, vs a guy who's trying to tear us apart.
This isn't meant to be a novel. Just a reminder that no matter how stubborn or wealthy @justinsunsteemit might be, Steemians have been through a 2+ year bear market and they didn't quit.
They've been fed up with shit tons of lies from @ned, yet they keep fighting to keep this place decentralized, the very moment that even Steem's founder himself didn't want it decentralized. Who would have thought eh?
I don't know about you, but I don't want a HF. Seriously. I just want our "home" safe.
It's a shame really that the Korean community, who happen to have the decisive vote via the @proxy.token account don't feel the same way and prefer to maintain a balance so that neither Justin nor the elected from the community witnesses can HF the chain.
Isn't it obvious that Justin just doesn't give a shit about us? Regardless if you are a Korean or Japanese or an Italian or Nigerian?
He just doesn't care.
Ninja-mined stake aside, Steemit.Inc is his latest acquisition, right? I don't know about you, but whenever I buy something new I can't stop talking about it. There's not even a single tweet where he mentions STEEM, despite the governance issues. Have you seen any act from his side as a sign of goodwill to resolve this mess with minimum collateral damages? NO.
He doesn't even bother to update the damn feed price. How hard is it ffs?
I've watched the discussion uploaded by @ausbitbank and the least I can say is that I am disappointed...
He kept talking about shorter powerdown windows and what's good for the exchanges. Is this what a serious investor, one that would help Steem thrive would do?
I guess everything's fine and our only issues are a shorter powerdown period and what exchanges feel more comfortable with eh? Sheeesh...
3 new free listings popped up for STEEM last week. Those might be small exchanges with low volume and such, yet it's an indicator that Justin's "problems" aren't even an issue for the exchanges.
Unless of course we are only talking about his exchange, Poloniex, and what's best for him. Have you seen any demands from Bittrex maybe? Nope. What about Huobi? Nope.
Fuck the exchanges.
First and foremost he should care for what's best for this place. And he simply doesn't.
He doesn't even take the time to read and respond to some of the hundreds of comments under his post.
Nah...I don't believe a single word coming out of this guy's mouth. And Koreans shouldn't believe him either...
It's not Koreans vs the rest of us...It should be us, united, vs a guy who's trying to tear us apart.
This is how rankings look like right now. And I am telling you, if @good-karma just crossed the 20K unique votes mark and at the same time the 2nd witness with more unique votes has 5000 unique votes less, then there's something we are doing wrong...and I have a feeling that we can still take back our home...
I am not telling you what you should or shouldn't do...I am simply presenting the facts...
Have a good one everyone and don't give up on Steem.
Notice that he's not even active for 5 days ! Imagine that !
For sure he doesn't care at all about us all.
He has shown zero respect towards us and has convinced us his only goal is to destroy us. But we're here to stay, he can go though! ASAP!
Well, one of those cases where a screenshot is worth 1000 words...
Yeah, today is 6 days and the thing that he's not even following anybody !
Imo the people dissatisfied with hf 22 and the freedown vote pool know their days are numbered, especially with talk of using smt to reward, rather than steem (something we should do straight away if forking).
I think the timing is right now. No SMT that sells votes will be worth a penny since it is only a one way street without a reward pool to exploit.
This isn't antibusiness at all. It is antiabuse. There are hundreds of chains that support business amd they can sell SMT like mobile games amd reward soft currency, buy proper ads on frontends or pay people (>like you and me<) to write ad posts. They are just here for the community, they want to exploit, not to play fairly.
If I'm wrong people will agree to wait 6 months until after SMT is released before wanting to reevaluate EIP model. They are just trying to 'double-team' the community with justin and don't care if he screws them for dessert.
Who is developing SMTs these days? Didn't the developers working on them quit?
The code was mostly if not entirely done (other than final testing) and a non-Steemit dev, @howo is paid by SPS to do the final testing. It will take some time, and current events were certainly not on anyone's roadmap, but it can probably still get deployed once some remaining issues get resolved.
Some of the early work on SMTs was done by my team, and they know the code concepts well (they even have some ideas for optimizations they want to do).
So SMT's are still a thing? Judging by the complete lack of communication with Steemit team (wonder if there's anyone left there) and the recent chaos regarding governance, I have a feeling that they are far from being released.
I think now we, the community needs to take up the development via SPS mechanism. This is the reason why witnesses have been demanding to have funds allotted to SPS to fund development. Anyways, unless we take back the consensus, none of that it going to happen any time soon.
There's a lot of interest in SMTs, so I think SMTs are definitely "still a thing". My devs worked on SMT code early on, and had ideas for how to make them more efficient. It's not a huge part of my personal vision for Steem, but one of the things I see changing in this blockchain is that the future development won't be controlled by a few people.
Interesting question. It's probably on pause, but it was close to being released and those developers still like the community.
A fork is inevitable, every day that passes the suckpuppets earn +4k steem. Plus all the people that are supporting them (korean or not) are just in the way and I don't think that they will change their stance.
We should just fork-out everyone that is voting for Justin Sun and if they want to join the new chain they can buy in. We can just dump the old steem and use it to prop-up the value of the new coin.
The real battle would be to get the fork listed on exchanges.
It's pretty difficult to get listed on the big exchanges these days.
My gut tells me that if Mr. Sun can gain control again to release a hard HF that it will be a disaster and it will take the pre-TRON witnesses to fix things. That is the time to get the new hard HF installed on the exchanges. In the HF the best analog fix will be to @null|Mr. Sun so that any future hostile agents will think twice before fucking with the community.
In my way of thinking HF22.2 already broke the trust of the chain so discussions about ownership and property are in degrees starting at this point. Besides both sides have demonstrated that on the blockchain possession is ten tenths of the law.
@steem.dao rather than @null. These funds were not meant to be burnt but used for development and onboarding.
In any case we need to get rid of him
Your point is well taken. Yet be it Mr. Sun or someone else it seems a weakness to DPoS which requires further development.
We can only be grateful to @ned's incompetence to have lowered the pre-mined stake down to its present 21-ish% from over 50% in the early years. 😎
It is absolutely true that time was on the side of decentralization. The community wouldn't be exerting this much influence without the inflation doing its job all these years.
Exactly.
Agreed.
4K STEEM is nothing compared to what all community members earn each day collectively. A reason to post more and give curators reasons to spend some VP.
Just trying to find ways to not fork the chain here...
If however a HF takes place, I hope the DPOS protocol turns into what I would call a REDPOS protocol to avoid future "suckpuppet witness" takeovers.
REDPOS sounds like a great idea to add to the majority stake holder take over fix(es)!
Thank you @novacadian!
If we get there, I think that it would be a nice addition. Learning from our mistakes and eliminating takeover scenarios should be a top priority...
You're certainly right about a lot of us having been through a lot of turbulence with this gig... and I'd like to think there are enough of us here who have invested enough faith and sweat equity in making this community something worthwhile that we can also do what needs to be done to ensure it has a decentralized future.
If there was one thing that always made me a bit nervous about Steem "way back when," it was that Dan often described it as an experiment. There's something about the word "experiment" that suggests something that can be discarded; something that is the "prelude" to something, but not the actual "thing."
I think we've proven ourselves worthy of being much more than just an experiment. Those of us who kept going when things crashed. Those of us who kept creating when Steem fell to 7 cents. Those of us who didn't rage quit every time the upper echelons instituted a change that messed everything up.
This is a community of communities. Like a city has neighborhoods. The Korean community is still part of the city... and if the city crumbles, ALL the "neighborhoods" lose.
That. Pretty much summarizes the current situation. I just hope that they'll understand it asap.
If we allow this thing to blow up in our faces just because of some downvotes...ok...nuff said..
I like our Korean Community too, but just downvoted for disagreement for rewards.
Meh, no worries mate. I wish Koreans could understand that with their help we can save Steem, and I wouldn’t mind if they flagged this post or any post to zero.
Thank you @mindtrap for influencing me on reaching out more of the community. I have embedded a post of my own with some "attitude" and personality of the message I also would like to pass.
But mostly, the idea was also to capture first the ones that don't care about, and make them understand (in case they like my personal story about BEER) that users on the STEEM community have really great value and fight back for what they like most.
There is no reason why not everyone at this stage have not more voting VESTs as the fake witnesses. You either are with the community, or you should just leave.
Introspection... I know how it would be possible to kill some of these attacks in the future:
I believe these measures will drastically change the education of the community. Initially it will some great impact on new users, but ultimately it will cleanse the blockchain from impostors and scammers.
Hmm, I guess that would trigger everyone to cast their votes regardless if they only care about blogging. Interesting.
Kinda brutal. I mean real life happens too and a two or three days break from the platform for some people isn't unusual. But overall I think those measures could be discussed. You should drop your ideas during the next Town Hall which is...today.
Thanks a lot... I would attend, but I am on UTC+13 and it kind of would be hard for me.
Although the ideas are there... I agree they are a bit brutal... but necessary for a "temporary" effort... which afterwards, could be relaxed uppon agreement.
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I've watched the discussion too uploaded by @ausbitbank I am disappointed too...
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Steem is a good project with a lot of potential to grow but without many exchanges to support it, like many other projects, it is broken by the bear market, apart from many witnesses who are never in agreement, neither for the good nor bad changes, I hope this will be resolved soon to be able to be united if this ship stops going aimlessly.
Why would they not support Steem?
STEEM is being listed on the biggest exchanges.
Binance Huobi and Bittrex are big players in the crypto space. The fact that they abused their power and helped Justin is a whole different discussion...
Bittrex didn't.
I was actually referring to big exchanges that we are listed on. Of course Bittrex didn't. And none of the above demanded shorter powerdowns and downvote removal.
It's just Justin trying to "charm" the Korean community.
If he succeeds in charming them, forking their stake out should be seriously considered.
Can we just take the (most decentralized) road that will get us back to $1.00 steem. I new new carpets before my baby is born in may.
Sheesh. It's been a long 7 months of blogging away waiting for things to get better.
May have to get a "real" job again.
Wah. Wah. Personal pity drama!
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