Hello dear steemians, what can be done for our platform to attract new users and investors?

in WORLD OF XPILAR2 years ago

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If you are a developer or just a blogger, what can we do to improve and attract more attention to bring in new users and investors.

I have been thinking about this for a long time, can for example an online game like "splinterlands", bring new users to the platform?

I would think so if steem/sbd/trx can be used in a game as a payment and reward system on our platform.

The game could, for example, be called STEEM-ON, where the game is about our ecosystem

A player starts by being a plankton/red fish to be able to increase in the ranks in the ecosystem and there will, for example, be an opportunity to buy up to dolphin status in the game by buying their own character/avatar and which can also be sold again.

Players can also contribute by creating digital characters for the game and be rewarded if their characters can be used in the game. It will also attract talented artists to steem and the game.

It should also be possible for investors to invest in the game

Skilled developers and "the steemit team" @steemcurator01 need to step up to make this happen.
And it will be possible to achieve if it can be funded through the Steem Proposal System, Decentralized Autonomous Organization (DAO)

Do you have thoughts about such a game and how it should be, or other ideas to make our platform more attractive

Hope that developers and witnesses will also discuss this and provide input

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 2 years ago (edited)

I have not yet dealt with splinterlands. Therefore, I cannot assess the concept and the interaction with the blockchain.

I'm not a gamer either, but a few years ago I already programmed a board game with "AI" (so you could play against the computer).
Therefore, I would like to briefly clarify (also to all enthusiastic commentators) what such a game development means. It's not enough to be very enthusiastic or to try it out. You need a game concept, appropriate graphics, interaction definitions... you don't just do that on the side...

In order to really start such a project from the community, much more input and concrete suggestions are needed. At least if you don't want to develop a bad copy of an existing game...


Mit splinterlands habe ich mich bisher noch nicht beschäftigt. Insofern kann ich das Konzept und die Interaktion mit der Blockchain nicht einschätzen.

Ich bin auch kein Spieler, habe aber bereits vor ein paar Jahren ein Brettspiel mit KI (man konnte also gegen den Computer spielen) programmiert.
Deshalb möchte ich (auch an alle begeisterten Kommentatoren) kurz verdeutlichen, was so eine Spieleentwicklung bedeutet. Da reicht es nicht, sehr begeistert zu sein oder es mal auszuprobieren. Da braucht es ein Spielekonzept, entsprechende Grafik, Interaktionsdefinitionen... das macht man nicht so nebenbei...

Um so ein Projekt wirklich aus der Gemeinschaft heraus starten zu können, werden viel mehr Input und konkrete Vorschläge benötigt. Jedenfalls wenn man nicht eine schlechte Kopie eines bestehenden Spiels entwickeln will...

 2 years ago 

Therefore, I would like to briefly clarify (also to all enthusiastic commentators) what such a game development means. It's not enough to be very enthusiastic or to try it out. You need a game concept, appropriate graphics, interaction definitions... you don't just do that on the side...

In order to really start such a project from the community, much more input and concrete suggestions are needed. At least if you don't want to develop a bad copy of an existing game...

I completely agree with you @moecki and hope that there will be a lot of input on this from developers, witnesses and steemit.inc and of course users in steem/steemit

 2 years ago 

I hope that @remlaps can also join the debate here and hear his thoughts on it

I'm a big fan of the idea of putting games on Steem, and I also like the idea you present to link the game concept to the Steem ecosystem. In general, my opinion is that Steem is a great platform for game creation because of the availability of custom_json transactions. Basically, anything that can be programmed in a traditional environment can also be programmed as a blockchain game with little requirement for specialized blockchain or smart contract knowledge (subject to performance constraints).

That said, with his background as a game developer, Matt was in an advantageous position to really capitalize on it with SteemMonsters/SplinterLands.

Coincidentally, I came across this article last week: The Spectacular Collapse of CryptoKitties, the First Big Blockchain Game, and I thought this point was salient to your post:

“I think the biggest problem blockchain games have right now is they’re not fun, and if they’re not fun, people don’t want to invest in the game itself,” says Newzoo’s Vicol. “Everyone who spends money wants to leave the game with more money than they spent.”

As I recall, when new players joined SteemMonsters, they quickly started looking for bots to automate it because the game itself really wasn't all that engaging. It was about rewards as much as entertainment. Not sure how it has evolved in the last couple of years.

Also, I'm not sure how much the game really helped the blockchain. Yes, it brought people, but I'm not sure how many of them turned into bloggers or curators. Yes, it encouraged people to stake tokens for resource credits, but most of the investment seems to have gone into layer-2 tokens and card delegation markets.

Anyway, all that is to say that I like the idea, but it comes with challenges. In sum:

  • How to prioritize entertainment before rewards (same challenge we're facing with content creation)
  • Development funding
  • The right mix of idea & skills (including programming, hosting/infrastructure, art work, and whatever else)
  • How to leverage it to drive investment
 2 years ago 

thank you @remlaps for your feedback

There is a lot to be considered when such a game is to be launched, wish I had the facet of it. But I hope that the idea of ​​such a game can be realized and that developers can get on board with steemit.inc.

The way it is today, I also think we need to bring in fun things such as games that can attract more users and investors.

"The Spectacular Collapse of CryptoKitties" thanks for the link, it was very interesting to read.

How to prioritize entertainment before rewards (same challenge we're facing with content creation)

It's not easy, maybe a separate pool of steem-on tokens that can be exchanged for steem, for example 1000 steem-on tokens are worth 1 steem. There could be a pre-sale of avatars (possibly NFTs) to the players that have to be bought for steem and that it is possible to buy up to dolphin level in the game, hope more people will come up with ideas for this

Development funding
The right mix of ideas & skills (including programming, hosting/infrastructure, art work, and whatever else)
How to leverage it to drive investment

Good question
If we are going to make this happen, I think we need steemit.inc to join in or give support to the project.
If it is to be profitable for investors, it must cost something to play the game that can give investors returns and programming, hosting/infrastructure, art work, and whatever else can be paid

 2 years ago 

Sorry, but when you touch on a topic like this, you're bound to get a long comment from me.

First, about the game. Your idea is clear and I think its implementation would lead to the effect you expect. We all see how splinterlands affects the price of Hive and are quietly envious. However, unfortunately, your idea will remain just a post. If you want to implement it, you will have to personally lead this process. If you wrote a proposal, you, as an authoritative user of the platform, would have a much higher chance of receiving funding. Then you could hire programmers to develop the game. I do not believe that anyone else will pick up this idea and undertake its implementation.

In general, having such large funds in the DAO, it is very surprising that the community does not use them in any way to progress. I understand why, because there are far more scammers who want to get these funds than those who really want to do hard and boring work. However, these funds can be our ticket to a better future for the platform.

We all need to understand that we are a community. We are small bricks in a big wall. The development of Steemit depends on each of us.

For example, if you are not a programmer, but just a blogger, you still influence the development of the platform. First, if you create quality content, you make the platform more attractive. Second, you can expand the platform's readership by sharing quality posts (not just your own) through social media. Admit it, when was the last time you shared a Steemit post on Facebook, Twitter, or Reddit?

The more readers Steemit has, the more attractive this platform will be for business. If business is interested, money will come here.

Of course, the greatest responsibility for the development of the platform rests with the witnesses. I am not sure, but it seems to me that the witnesses do not communicate much with each other and rarely come up with new initiatives. Maybe I'm wrong.

 2 years ago 

First, about the game. Your idea is clear and I think its implementation would lead to the effect you expect. We all see how splinterlands affects the price of Hive and are quietly envious. However, unfortunately, your idea will remain just a post. If you want to implement it, you will have to personally lead this process. If you wrote a proposal, you, as an authoritative user of the platform, would have a much higher chance of receiving funding. Then you could hire programmers to develop the game. I do not believe that anyone else will pick up this idea and undertake its implementation.

Many more must get involved, including the witnesses and steemit.inc, for such a project to become a reality.
It is not so easy to hire programmers and to apply for support from a proposal for this. Skilled programmers who will create such a game will require a larger advance payment. And you may be right that it will only be with my post and that nothing will happen. But I hope that I have planted a seed and that this may become possible in the future.
I can be an investor in such a project, but we need a manager who understands coding and can speak the language that developers do

Some witnesses talk to each other, but all witnesses are not on the so-called witness channel on discord, and unfortunately I am locked out of that channel

 2 years ago 

Some witnesses talk to each other, but all witnesses are not on the so-called witness channel on discord, and unfortunately I am locked out of that channel

It's terrible that the person who really cares about the fate of the platform has been left behind. But, fortunately, you are still in the top 20.

 2 years ago 

Yes, it's a shame that I can't communicate there with them

 2 years ago 

Greetings my friend @xpilar

Sounds interesting this idea, in this game you could place the communities as reefs, where they would be offered certain food in the form of Steem, SBD or TRX for their development after completing a mission.

I would like someone to implement this idea.

It seems to me that it would also be possible to bring back the betting platform that was in place some time ago where you could bet on different sports through Steem.

 2 years ago 

Sounds interesting this idea, in this game you could place the communities as reefs, where they would be offered certain food in the form of Steem, SBD or TRX for their development after completing a mission.

It's a great idea @adeljose

bring back the betting platform

It might be possible to do that, but it would take a lot more players than we had last time to cover expenses and pay the winners

I'm not sure what's going on but my post rewards have dropped dramatically from around $ 5 to around $ 0.75. I believe your idea is a good idea. Creating a game with the three coins STEEM, SBD and TRX can give more visibility to STEEM and Steemit. Perhaps another idea would be to implement PLAY STEEM and improve this mobile application. People I know are blogging from their cell phones and not from their computers

 2 years ago 

implement PLAY STEEM and improve this mobile application

that's a good idea @stefano.massari

Personally, I'd like to see all the funds in the DAO be used to buy STEEM on the open market and burn it, and then have the DAO discontinued...

I'd also like to see an internal market developed for TRX/STEEM similar to the one we have with STEEM/SBD, that would help with the issues of having STEEM wallets down on Exchanges from time to time as it would open STEEM investors to every Exchange TRX is listed on. It may also encourage more users to come to Steemit and possibly more Steemit users to Tron, seems like a win win to me.

As far as a game... those are hit or miss and haven't done much to bring in users currently to the broader community. Some sort of metaverse game where users can play while using the steem currency would be cool though. And as far as funding, upvotes from the the steemitinc accounts should be a good source of funding. That's more or less what the reward pool is for...

 2 years ago 

Maybe it shouldn't be discontinued but turned into a fixed burning of steem, for example once per week. I don't think many users know that 10% of their rewards go to the DAO
Burning 10% of what is given from the rewards every week will have a big impact on the value of steem

I think this is a great idea...!!, i know , just like thousands like blogging thousands also like playing games, especially if it involves getting some incentives. I believe if developers could come up with something like this...it could really help alot.

Remember, there are times folks just feel like relaxing..., during such time..they can use it for games too.

Maybe we give it a trial..?

 2 years ago 

Yes @ubongudofot , there are new times and steem/stemmit must be developed further

 2 years ago 

I am not a gamer, but I know for sure that an interesting game can attract many users. New users may appear for the sake of the game.
This is a good idea, any game and new initiative need our platform like air. I wish you good luck.

 2 years ago 

I hope that I have planted a seed and that the ideas can be used

 2 years ago 

Ideas need support from the platform team.
Seeds ask for watering and care :)

 2 years ago 

Well said @bambuka

 2 years ago 

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Hi @xpilar, without a doubt, an interesting proposal.
Obviously Steemit is basically a platform for sharing content, and I think one of the first and main things to do is to ask for much more quality in the publications, this to start with.

From the experience of other similar platforms it is evident that it is possible to relate games with the steem Blockchain, I don't know how they do that, as I have no knowledge of Programming, unfortunately, but I would like to.

However, this kind of initiatives should come from Witness, from people at the top, who do novel things on the platform, and that this makes Steemit attractive. Because the issue I see is that if the people who are active here in Steemit and have some influence do not do it, how someone from outside will want to invest or develop a project here?

 2 years ago 

However, this kind of initiatives should come from Witness, from people at the top, who do novel things on the platform, and that this makes Steemit attractive. Because the issue I see is that if the people who are active here in Steemit and have some influence do not do it, how someone from outside will want to invest or develop a project here?

Totally agree with you @josevas217, witnesses and steemit inc. must provide input on this.
It is a large project and large investments that can possibly be financed through the Steem Proposal System

Additional Dapps like games can attract users but we know that it is not that easy because there aren't much developers that can do those @xpilar

So developers must come before the Dapps and then it will be the point to attract new users and investors in my opinion.

 2 years ago 

Hi @cryptopie

If developers get paid to make such a game, it will be possible and that steemit.inc is involved

 2 years ago 
 2 years ago (edited)

Good ideas you describe in your post @dobartim , steemit inc. must be on board with this