You are viewing a single comment's thread from:

RE: Stupid Poor People

Yeah, we are approaching a point where we will start to enter a post scarcity economy, where practically everything is made by automated machines. But then, what's the point in money at all? To ration a certain number of things? Most people won't be able to figure out something they're good at enough to get paid well doing. If we were truly in a post scarcity economy, we wouldn't need money or to ration anything. But then you'd have the old people taking more than their share.

We aren't truly in a post scarcity economy yet and we won't be for a while. We have the technology for many things to be automated, perhaps even most of society now. But we will need time. Many people need time to change.

Of course it's not right that poverty exists. It's stupid. We grow more than enough food for everyone. And it makes more sense financially to provide healthcare for everyone.

It also makes more sense to switch to high speed rail as soon as possible and abandon cars for the most part, relying on small electric automated vehicles for local transpo. But we won't.

We need to take care of the things that people spend money on that everyone needs, for the benefit of society. Even if we gave money to everyone, they'd just have to pay for these things anyway, and then it would cost everyone more money. Instead, we need to just supply them.

And even if in the future many won't have the jobs they have now, companies still need to go somewhere to find people to fill the jobs they have, and people that want jobs to do have to go somewhere to find one. The current system is just wasteful and stupid. Seriously, we have to go door to door for a job?

You're turning to money to solve the problem of money. We should just solve the individual problems. Eventually we'll move beyond money. And maybe we should have a universal basic income...but we have a lot of other problems that need to be solved to lower how much basic income we need, because we all need to pay for them anyway.

And the problem with going to Mars isn't the money, it's politicians. They're unwilling to put the money forward that it would cost. In truth we could have a launch loop allowing cheap flights to the moon and launching satellites and going to Mars for less than the annual budget of many companies, just a few billion, but we don't. The cost to go to Mars is actually not that much. Instead we spend insane amounts on bombs and planes and big buildings to hold games that will never be used afterwards. The problem isn't money. The problem is people. We don't solve poverty because not enough people in positions to do something want to do anything. And we put them in those positions.