RE: Hello Steemit! You have a CREATOVERT here!
Wow. What an impressive way to talk about introduction.
I don't think that I myself need to identify my self. But when others think of me and want to know how to deal with me, THEY need all this identifications you talked about. It is not so much of a mystery, from my point of view. It's just crutches we need for we have altered our environment and now are stuck with split lives and professions.
As we live in a division of labor and process-divided society, we also have shared identities that are tailored to the space we enter. If we come to the office, we are office workers, we go to the doctor, we are patients, we drive on a picnic, we are picnicers.
In truth, of course, we're not all that, but who we are is actually much less important to ourselves than to all the others who try to assess us and become wise out of us.
Turn your view around and you will find that you have to know your prey like the prehistoric hunter in order to be able to assess its next steps. At that time you may not have given it a name, so maybe identity was much more fleeting and we were freer. Today, we are less free, but much more bound to estimation. Without any reference to a bound identity, you will find it difficult to judge a stranger in your sphere because you need a code of conduct to accommodate him/her. Without this crutch we would not be able to communicate well. Of course, we have exaggerated excessively, because we would be very frightened to meet someone who seems to have no identity at all.
My own promotion article can be found here:
https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@erh.germany/pleased-to-meet-you
@vimukthi made me aware of this post.
Welcome to you and whoever you are!! :))
Wow... I find this one powerful and quite funny at the same time... :D
Your perspective is unique to view Identity as a tool. Fully agree with all of your points.
I just partially agree on this one though. When we just have the basic idea of someone, there's always something missing in an interaction between two individuals. It's just normal Q&A & dull shallow conversations. The crutch helps and gives us something to talk about but the conversation is meaningless. I think that if there's no value to be added, insights to be shared or mindsets to be changed... the words are a waste of time & energy. So, we may be able to communicate but the conversation is of low-value. I would rather keep myself zipped up than to participate in any short & shallow talks.
thank you:)
Have you made the experience not to care about the outer coat of a person (his momentarily taken identity) and looked through it? Did you sense his or her presence underneath small talk? Is it up to the other person to give meaning to a conversation or is it of more importance to encourage the other one to show what's deeper to see & feel within him or her?
What if you were always able to overcome the cruch from your side? Even to dropp all expectations?
For my part I rarely make this experience to free myself from the wish that other people make the effort to reach what is true for the moment. But when it happens, it's the best:)
Most of the time when I look through the small talk, I soon find dead hollow ends. It's very rare to find great value beyond the outer coat of a person. Like the character in my profile pic, I have a tendency to make people open themselves up to me. But People with great value inside them are rare. Most times I've met someone I've had a deep conversation with, there was not much of an outer coat to begin with.
what a pitty! But I guess you are on a good way to compensate that, as well as the rest of us who like to get in conversations here on the platform. This gives hope and the realization that there are more people than one might assume with what we are seeking.
This is the reason I'm so in love with steemit. We are continents apart in a crowd noise of 7+ billions and yet we connect.
That's something to ponder upon @erh.germany ... I don't know why but I almost automatically identify & judge people through their eyes and their tone of voice and that pretty much reveals everything you know... The gaze in their eyes and the passion in their voice pretty much describes who they are and predetermines my reaction. I might need to change myself though...
Thanks, @creatovert. As we as social beings swing together, my voice and tone would swing with yours, if we would get to meet each other physically.
When I encounter people the first time I would probably do some small (identity)talk in order to feel, listen and gaze at them and they would probably do the same, no? If I prepare myself to concentrate my best interest on them, it might change something. From superficiality and dishonesty to something more authentic. I guess that change only happens when I am ready for expecting the best out of humans. Of course this is no guarantee for a valuable encounter. But chances become bigger that my "service" may work.
In the end it's more of a habit one can learn to cultivate. I am far from perfect and probably won't reach the highest ideal:)
Thank you for your response. Learned a thing or two from you @erh.germany ... I'll try and apply that. I guess I just need to reprogram my habit then
Damn you does sound like my clone. Human relationships should only differ from business in the kind of value involved. Human interactions that doesn't carry value is a spiritual bankruptcy. One should keep spam out of their lives even while they are Away From Keyboard.
Not only identity but all knowledge including physics and mathematics are simply just Tools.
A is A because it's named that way and 1+1=2 because it's designed that way. In binary systems 1+1=10
I found out that my thinking aligns with http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Instrumentalism#Early_Instrumentalism