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RE: A Whaleshares Bank on Steemit
To be fair, that was me that told you to fuck off and Pankso had nothing to do with it. I am also not a member of the Whaleshares team though.
You were also not very nice when you worded your offer, which was why I got a bit prickly.
Our talk was a few weeks ago. Im talking 6+ months ago here.
Yes, that is the one I am referring to. You came into the discord and told us that now that WLS is worthless, we should get a steemengine token and become a Steem tribe.
Didnt say Whaleshares was worthless. WLS price is at worthless levels, which is true. And that was far after i talked to folks about the possibility of Steem engine integration.
Check April 2. in the discord chat.
Okay, you had said 6 months ago so that was where I looked. I wasn't around for the April chats I guess. The thing about all of this is that there are people that believe in Whaleshares, despite the name, and there are people that just try to cash in on Whaleshares.
I see a lot of those people commenting on this post and that is fine. I also see people buying back the cheap WLS because it is a great platform and has a good, working blockchain under it. Sure, things could have been run better but in the end there is still a group of people who want to see this work.
Not for the price of WLS but to have a comfortable, uncensored place to hang out and without the fear of having your content flagged. As long as there are enough witnesses to keep the chain running and there are a few people that want to stay and talk, why does there need to be so much meddling in what goes on over there?
It's hardly meddling. It's people providing feedback on what they see is going on.
As you can see from my April convo I was simply sharing the complete basics of how the market works and the need to expand whaleshares reach. I was shut down numerous times for simply trying to help either on discord or on chain.
The team literally did not want to listen to any feedback at all.
They decided to shun any mention of steem or any opportunity that was there to take advantage of the falling trust at the time in steemit.inc.
Even in my discussions about expanding their reach by creating easy trading pairs they completely dismissed it because they hated steem.
Instead of creating a bridge between communities they lived in fear that everyone will sell their tokens, they feared that whales would manipulate the marker when the absolute fact is that being constricted to one pair bts/wls leads to massive dumping and liability due to it being the only point of entry and exit.
They are absolutely incompetent and I'd go and say that they have absolutely no clue of how to run a project like this.
They even stripped the revolutionary idea of reward pool allocation and adopted the stupidest system of paying out inflation to stake holders completely removing the need for a content platform.
It's all beyond ludicrous.
WLS right now has 0 utility. Its simply a token printing station relying on greater fool theory.
People that did care about it's success left and whaleshares is a joke to us now we laugh at in discord.
Expecting us to not say anything now is hard to expect after being dissapointed this much.
And here we go again. When I said "meddling" I wasn't referring to you but to the dozens of other people that came from Steemit to try and undermine.
When you constantly barrage people with how smart you are compared to how stupid they are, are you surprised when you are met with hostility? Telling people that they are stupid because they don't want things to be the same as you do doesn't make them stupid, it makes you ignorant to other people's way of thinking.
What does the price of their token or how they distribute the token matter? If there are people that like the tipping structure, let them tip. I tip away all of my daily rewards to people that I like or enjoy the content they share. There are others that do the same. I try to tip the people that I know will keep their tokens on the chain but I have no say with what they do with them.
Does that affect you or any other person who has left the platform? It shouldn't, yet you felt the need to give @pankso a piece of your mind when he simply tried to give people what they had been asking for. A way to trade WLS for Steem.
I have tried to come back to Steemit and hang out to see if the platform has become more friendly and have been met with mostly good feelings but did notice the other day that I was being flagged for getting SBI upvotes. Luckily my buddy @buttcoins counteracts any rewards I might have lost but that's neither here nor there. It's not a friendly place for everyone. I am still going to use it, and keep my rewards in my account here but you shouldn't think that the reward system is the be-all, end-all. There is a lot of room for improvement and anyone who thinks their system is perfect is naive or lying.
My barrage was in the form of constructive feedback that in the end shown could have helped Whaleshares. I never once called anyone stupid in discord or in DMs. I do call them stupid now, so thats fair.
Yes. I gave him a piece of my mind and i hope the feedback he gets goes back to people on whaleshares so they start to understand what those that are dissapointed with the path Whaleshares took have to say.
There is this very strange position the whaleshares people tend to align themselves with.
Well there is criticism galore for Whaleshares and people will speak it. I will speak it here as well and ill give my take on things on posts i feel fit to do so on.
When Whaleshares started everyone was so happy to speak their mind about Steemit on whaleshares, being happy they left.
Why condemn me for speaking my mind about Whaleshares?
Crypto is full of absolute garbage. I mean i just covered MINDOL few minutes ago in a post, but the point is to find something that you enjoy. Steem, whaleshares, Steemmonsters whatever.
There is a massive human component to the reward system here and it will be as perfect as we are as users and stake holders... meaning it will always be flawed.
But thats the good part of it. Us as a community molding what the platform we are on looks like.
I understand what you are saying and in part I agree with you. There have been many people just come in to tell the Whaleshares team how they should do it. You are at least decent to deal with in the sense that you left there almost a year ago and aren't coming back every few months and trolling posts on Whaleshares about how stupid it is.
What gets me is that you, or me for that matter, thinks that anyone should put stock in what we think about someone else's project. Nobody on Steemit gave two fucks about what I or anyone else had to say when I was here full-time. So just because we think that they should do something to make it more like what we want, it doesn't mean that they should do it.
As for the criticism comment, I probably criticise them as much as anyone else. To the point of many of the team not responding to any of my messages anymore. Oh well. If I had to listen to all of the bullshit they get, I would quit listening too.
In the end, I would rather hitch my wagon to a team of good hearted nags with no sense of direction than a slick team that looks really good and might drive over a cliff if they see a bag of sweet feed at the bottom.