RE: Kokesh and Cult of Personality in Liberty Circles
According to the video she was okay with the threesome, it was the results that she didn't like. They both were irresponsible in that, given he should've known better than to manipulate emotions and she should've laid down boundaries before it happened.
She didn't complain about his masturbation, but the reason why (her emotions, which are normal human behaviors, were unattractive to him). Personally, I see that as far fetched, so either he lied and possibly cheated on her or he was being sarcastic. In either case, he proved to her he didn't plan to be there for her.
Coming into a relationship with nothing means, well, nothing. The thing none of us know yet is the understanding. Was the understanding he was going to control her finances? If so, temporarily or as long as the relationship lasted? Was it that she depended on him until she got on her feet?
You belittling these three points and making it seem like he's innocent shows me you feel like you identify with him. At worst, you're as psychopathic as he might be; at best, you're as heartless in personal relationships as he might be. I'm sorry, but you show traits that show you're no lord and master over free men.
And I won't even touch your last point, except to say, I know from experience it's not so easy as you claim. Which means your knowledge of women is probably non-existent.
Wow, u seem to know so much about me! As I said, the only two who really know are Adam and Macey. So I am not trying to judge. All I am saying is that what Macey is complaining about seems to be NORMAL shit that happens in a relationship. How couples manage money, a loss of romantic interest, driving in snowstorms. Boo fucking hoo! I think Macey threw around the "sociopath" word carelessly, AND she was free to leave anytime she wanted. I don't know Adam all that great, but he is not a sociopath in my opinion. When Macey left, Adam posted some ridiculous shit about how he realizes now that pot contributed to his failures in his relationship. Wow, what made him say that?? Adam is one of the best advocates for liberty of our generation. Sure, it was his show, but that doesnt make him a "textbook sociopath". Have any other girlfriends accused Adam of being a sociopath or (gasp) a control freak? But lemme guess.. you are a friend of Macey's? I was a fan of Maceys when she went on her own. I was like, great, maybe she will post some cool shit which she did. I enjoyed reading about her experiences with drugs and such. What was the point of her "the real Adam Kokesh" video. To "expose" the "real" Adam. BOM BOM BOM! When things don't work out, it's easy to vilify your ex. The REALITY is much closer to 60%/40% blame. Not 100%/0% (unless Adam is really a sociopath!!)... ADAM IS SOCIOPATH AND TRIED TO RUIN A POOR GIRL!!!!!!! Not. Get a grip. Maybe things just fizzled out and they held on to each other too long. The relationship was no longer right for Macey so she left. Good for her (and I really mean that). But be mature enough to understand that each partner in the relationship had a contribution. Life is gray, not black and white. Anything is possible, and I really do not know Adam well, so again, the only two people who know for sure are Macey and Adam. But in my brief encounters with Adam, he does not AT ALL strike me as a "textbook sociopath". Perhaps my s-radar is off. More likely, it was a fairly normal relationship that failed like relationships often do after the infatuation phase. Maybe the blame is more like 60/40 like most relationships. Maybe both Adam and Macey should focus on moving forward instead.
You admit you don't know Adam well, but claim he is or isn't something. Contradiction?
Yeah, showing more affection to the second girl in a threesome is normal - at least for guys who either choose wrong girls for them or have a hard time getting threesomes.
However, risking a life in a snowstorm, holding money over a girl's head, and being emotionally and verbally abusive can be normal, but should be called out on. Had I personally knew her when they were together I would've advised her to leave him just based on that. If you feel he was in the right or only slightly wrong, then you are the same kind of either a) bad boyfriend, at best that he is or b) sociopath, at worst that he could be.
Based on your cavalier attitude regarding the fact it's not easy as it seems to leave, that you know nothing about women. If I felt it was worth explaining women to you, which must be aliens from Venus to you, I would. All I can say, I hope you're gay because know nothing about women.
His words about cannabis has nothing to do with this. Maybe he did too much? Maybe the strands he liked were bad for him? Lots of reasons for him to say that, but he never admitted he was a bad boyfriend while on pot. And he's not a bad communicator, so your false parallel smells like poor rationalization and misdirection.
One of Adam's exes liked Macey's video. If you read the article - my guess is you have not - it doesn't take sides.
Life can be gray, but that does NOT erase the wrongs someone does. For example, the wrong even YOU admit he has done are not gray. Even she admitted wrong - but you don't want to acknowledge that fact because it disproves your theory she's just be opportunistic.
You talk about "textbook sociopath" in the same sentence in your LIMITED meetings with him he COMES OFF as not a sociopath. I'll just leave that here, illustrating your blatant ignorance on this topic.
I shall not reply to your further. It is obvious to me you're just an Adam fanboy who wants to blame victims (notice, I didn't say "the victim"). Thanks for the discussion.
Good! Go away, you wuss! LOL