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RE: Unpopular Opinion: Shaming Paedophiles Isn't Very Ethical
"a meth head more meth" Precisely!
When I watched the Vice documentary I honestly cringed at the dude himself and not at the paedophiles. Something just didn't sit right with me the entire time throughout. He also admitted to being sexually taken advantage of when young. It was obvious the entire operation was an emotional one for him.
The show was Deadline wasn't it?
I think if these vigilantes really dare to make a real difference, they should go into the deep, dark web. I read some shit on it and THAT shit is the real hardcore, evil destroy-your-faith-in-humanity things going on today.
These hunts are like nuclear bombing their way through a war. They will probably eliminate the so-called evil in the area, but humanity is also wiped out.
When I watched the Vice Documentary I thought they did a really good job with it because you sort of asked yourself why he was spending all that time with it. Then towards the end it made more sense but I tell you what I was uneasy about. When he was doing the little boy voice talking to these guys. It was just tempting these guys more and more.
Clearly the dudes need help and are fucked up in the head but it certainly is a very fine line on what these vigilante’s and law enforcement for that matter are doing. Because they will be saying "What do you want to do to me?" And then the perv will get tempted even more.
Yeah the show was Dateline NBC with Chris Hanson. It kind of became a long running joke on South Park and other shows.
The one crazy thing I think we could see from that show and other stuff like this is that even otherwise professional people were passing their better judgement to try to meet up with the supposed kids. That was pretty shocking. One of the question marks that I always had with it is they would often act like they used a picture of a girl that looked younger.....etc but that was actually over 18 when talking to those guys. That is messed up really and then also talking on the phone. They would have someone over 18 working with the cops pretending to be younger.
The lines are sort of blurry kind of like "public intoxication" or Driving While Intoxicated. Like in Arizona it is a no tolerance state so even if you blow a 0.01 and the cop says you were driving bad then you could be really screwed and get your license suspended. But in reality it is like you are in trouble for something that might have happened that would be bad.
Again another blurry line because we can't have people driving around drunk and high as fuck and we can't have pervs trying to meet up with 14 years old.
We won't ever know how another human and their issues truly feel. No one is a mind reader.
The baiting to me is wrong because it messes with their already messed up head and the sole aim is to kill, not help.
The paedophile, when baited by the dude pretending to be a 12 year-old, may have shifted from "I can't do this! It's wrong!" to "Maybe just this one time. The opportunity has presented itself."
And then, already fucked in the head, they come up with the rationale that things will be fine, perhaps like, "Maybe this kid knows what he/she is doing and is actually more mature than most adults in today, and most adults today are fucked up."
That alone kind of sums it up: "Most adults today are fucked up."
No one can argue with that.
I find that the vigilantes are lost in their own irony. Sorry, but any adult pretending to be a kid for whatever purpose is messed up.
Yeah I agree with what you are saying. It suddenly makes an easy path for someone who is messed up in their head to justify it just for that one time or something like you said.
I remember having a conversation about this with someone back when I was 21 or so because that Dateline NBC show To Catch A Predator was on and we were even like WTF about some of the show. For instance in certain episodes the would usually let the guy walk back out of the house and then the cops would arrest him and sometimes the guy wasn't running or anything and the cops would just full on head tackle the guy to the ground like he had a machine gun or something. A lot of the stuff they were doing was sort of borderline in my opinion and then some of the stuff was just over the top aggressive instead of just calming putting him in hand cuffs and putting him in the cop car.
It's all entrapment. And that's just too grey an area.
I'd probably only err on side of safety in a war zone.
But in today's society? Not very necessary.
I agree. A lot of it is entrapment.
There is all kinds of weird stuff that happens here like that. In college there would be young cops that would sneak into college parties and try to hang out and then bust underage drinkers. How lame.
Here is an article about how one cop worked at Burger King for 2 months just to bust someone with 5 grams of marijuana.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/undercover-operation-burger-king-marijuana_us_57ee7b91e4b082aad9bad66b