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RE: What if humans were an invasive species? Are we invasive?? How would you know? Who would ever tell you?

in #life8 years ago (edited)

It feels to me like most of us humans are on fragile ground right now due to endless wars, the threat of another world war, nuclear destruction, weather events increasing in intensity or changing altogether and creating deserts out of former breadbaskets and well populated areas, aquifers drying up or becoming contaminated, Fukushima radiation in the pacific, big boys squaring off for the Petro-Dollar Belt, and the possibility of people wanting to get rid of vast swathes of people to make more space ... ;-)

I find myself responding to all of this as a populist and citizen of humanity. Check out my defense of the human race. :-)

I do not believe that there is sufficient evidence to write humanity off so fast. Consider, if you will, the First Nations of Northern America, who lived in great harmony with the environment, shepherding it even. I've read that there are diaries or some historical texts that report Northern America being almost park-like due to their stewardship. I've also heard it hypothesized that Europe's little ice age was in large part due to the flourishing fauna, wildlife, and tribes of humans effecting the gulf stream - if I'm recalling correctly.

Consider also, how so many humans often react to seeing an animal that might be up for a limbic system connection. Humans are warm and caring. I know that sounds crazy at present - but I feel like we've been, and are still being, all jacked up to be forecasting negativity and threat. Skillfully prodded into destructive, hateful attitudes and sometimes acts through stoking fear and hate, if you will.

So it appears that we are not always "invasive." I think it comes down to how we conduct ourselves. Therefore, the conclusion that "Humans are an invasive species" lacks further evidence. We cannot see the forest of humanity for the trees of our present, somewhat dire, circumstances.

To take it a step further, I'm coming to believe that concluding that we are "invasive" serves to exacerbate the problem itself. We've gotta stop buying into the narrative that we humans are bad by default. We have evidence to the contrary in many tribal cultures and we know that there is manipulation afoot.

Take the universe for example. Outer space. There is a good chance that humanity has been held back from taking to space. There is no acceptable reason given to us for why NASA suddenly stopped establishing our foothold on the moon and no other country or group took up the mission. Unless there's NASA history I'm unaware of. Space travel, Goldilocks planets, heck, any rock we can bore in to and pressurize provides, conceptually, limitless space. It would also enable getting out from under the thumb of conniving, manipulating governments - hey, maybe that has something to do with us being earth-locked and destructive.

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PS, great post! Pertinent topic of discussion. Love the invitation to share viewpoints and discuss.
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Unless there's NASA history I'm unaware of

There's plenty of NASA history you're unaware of, and that would include NASA employees too. It's on a need-to-know basis. It has to be.

So it would appear. So how do you see that fitting in with the "humans are an invasive species" perspective?

What do you think about my suggestion that we are not invasive by default?

Hi @intelliguy, I came across this interesting presentation that talks about humanity:


I do not disagree with you, I think it is obvious to look around and equate humans with destruction, but what if that is not our "default" net result of our existence?
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