Where Do You Draw The Line?

steemwolf (52)in #life • 7 years ago

It is a very complex question, which I think comes down to looking clearly at your objectives, and looking at the means available to you to advance those objectives. I will use an example here.

I was on Free Republic, and one of the posters was saying the entire FBI is corrupt and dishonored, because nobody in it spoke up to oppose McCabe and Comey using their domestic intel agency for trying to overthrow a lawful election. If that was the measure, you could say everyone in the domestic intelligence agencies is a corrupt traitor, who has betrayed the Constitution.

But suppose you were an intel officer in some agency, under some version of Comey and McCabe. You know there is treasonous leftist shitbaggery afoot, at the highest levels. You can round up every intel officer who thinks like you, go hit Sean Hannity, and reveal it to the nation. By the end of the day, McCabe and Comey will have you filing papers in a basement in Nome Alaska, along with every other agent, and all that will be left in the intel agencies of the US will be leftist shitbags committed to using their intel powers to implement a socialist state.

I view this kind of like joining the mob in an open, government-surveilled protest, and heading down to burn down a building in the open. Yes, you score the immediate, feel good statement against the betrayal of your nation by the elites, but that will probably be the last victory you will attain, and if everyone does it then your movement is doomed.

Now suppose you are an intel agent under Comey and McCabe who becomes aware of leftist shitbaggery designed to overthrow a lawful election. You kiss up to Comey and McCabe, appear to be with them, and quietly amass evidence. You chart their plots, and quietly align with like-minded agents to break into voting places to reprogram corrupted voting machines to give an honest result. You document the text messages between all the leftist conspirators before the records can be wiped, and you quietly approach the Trump administration and lend your expertise to creating a plot that will sweep all the corruption and leftist shitbaggery from the government in one swift motion. The election goes off, Trump is honestly elected to the shock of everyone, and he proceeds to enact the Great Awakening.

This is how intel would roll, if there were agents who opposed what Comey, and McCabe, and the rest of the swamp were up to. The immediate open show of force is for losers. The quiet long game that you fought so covertly that nobody ever even knows you fought it is where the real victory lies. It is why I can’t reflexively shit on intel as a whole for what went on. If they fought back, you would never know.

So when I say don’t join those open protests and commit crimes openly, I am not saying don’t oppose the government as it seeks to genocide you, or don’t protest. I am saying look carefully at your objectives, your means, and where things are going. Sometimes that analysis may say commit a minor illegality. There may times when your objective can be entirely accomplished with one minor action.

Back when Dan Rostenkowski screwed up Medicare, there were a specific set of conditions in play. There would be no greater civil rebellion. There was a single issue in play, and media attention given to a bunch of seniors rocking Rostenkowski’s car, and giving him a little amygdala was plenty of action to promote a reconsideration of the offending legislation. In that case, the minor illegality of blocking his car, and maybe giving him some perception of threat was a smart play.

But in my opinion, Europe is a more complex problem. My suspicion is the elites in Europe intend to use the Muslim migrants to violently subjugate each nation’s own citizens, or just subjugate them with the perception of threat of violence by the Muslims, with thee elites withholding protection. Between the elite’s strategy to use the Muslims as proxies, and the likelihood they will probably not be able to keep their Muslim pets on a leash when the real festivities begin, I think you need to take a look at playing the longer game there. Maintain your anonymity with the government by withholding action until violence is unavoidable for survival, and everyone is unified in their desire for it. Best of all, never associate with the resistance, tow the government line, and join the security services wherever you can. Imagine if the entire intelligence operations in Germany were covertly populated with Chans and Redditors.

I think the worst thing you could do now is act without thinking deeply about what your objectives are, what each action’s effects and consequences will likely be, and then weigh how the immediate effects compare with how those consequences will affect your ability to operate later.

I suspect it will be the later actions of the movement will have much greater effect as the majority of the citizenry begins to align with the right.

You can always act later. You cannot always undo what you have done, if you acted out of rashness.

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