Some damn good ones. I have to admit I think some alts are certainly shitcoins, but it annoys me when they throw a strong project under the bus because its an alt.

"I remind them how much of a scam the US dollar is and how its used for drugs all the time, usually ends right there." I use this same argument! My friends tend to be more stubborn though. They all think I'm especially crazy when I talk about steem bucks.